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1 | Polen, Ukraine: Euro 2012 og racisme | Poland, Ukraine: Euro 2012 and Racism |
2 | (Alle links i dette indlæg er på engelsk, medmindre andet er angivet) | |
3 | Fodboldfans i Europa er blevet præsenteret for noget af en liste med grunde til ikke at rejse til Polen og Ukraine i forbindelse med Euro 2012, der efter planen starter d. 8. juni. | Football fans across Europe have been presented with quite a list of reasons not to travel to Poland and Ukraine for Euro 2012, which is scheduled to begin in a week. |
4 | Blandt udpegede “risici” i Ukraine nævnes blandt andet massemord af strejfende dyr, udhulning af hotelpriser, truslen i form af de “smukke, ukrainske kvinder”, homofobi og situationen med den nu fængslede tidligere premierminister, Yulia Tymoshenko. | Ukraine “options” to choose from include mass killings of stray animals, hotel price gouging, the threat of “beautiful Ukrainian women,” homophobia, and the plight of Yulia Tymoshenko, Ukraine's jailed ex-PM. |
5 | Det nyeste punkt i den omfattende og varierende negative omtale er rascime - og dette er relevant i forhold til både Polen og Ukraine. | The newest item recently added to this extensive and diverse negative publicity menu is racism - and it is relevant for both Poland and Ukraine. |
6 | BBC One sendte mandag d. 28. maj Panoramas Euro 2012: Stadiums of Hate [Hadets Stadioner]. En dokumentar der, ifølge BBC, “afslører chokerende nye beviser på racistisk vold og antisemitisme i hjertet af polsk og ukrainsk fodbold og stiller spørgsmålstegn ved hvorvidt turneringsarrangøren, UEFA, skulle have valgt begge nationer som værter for den prestigefyldte begivenhed”. | On Monday, May 28, BBC One aired Panorama's Euro 2012: Stadiums of Hate, a documentary that, according to BBC, “reveals shocking new evidence of racist violence and anti-Semitism at the heart of Polish and Ukrainian football and asks whether tournament organiser UEFA should have chosen both nations to host the prestigious event.” |
7 | Efter at have set “Panoramas optagelser af kampe i begge værtsnationer”, rådede den pensionerede engelske fodboldspiller, Sol Cambell [da], fans til at “blive hjemme”, til at “se det i fjernsynet” og siger: “Lad være med at tage chancen….du risikerer at komme tilbage i en kiste.” | After watching the footage that “Panorama spent a month filming at matches in both the joint host nations,” Sol Campbell, a retired English footballer, advised fans to “stay at home” and “watch it on TV”: “Don't even risk it… because you could end up coming back in a coffin.” |
8 | BBC-dokumentaren har været skyld i mange ophedede online diskussioner. | The BBC documentary has caused many heated discussions online. |
9 | Artiklen med Cambells ovennævnte råd til fans, har fået over 950 kommentarer. | The article on Campbell's advise to fans, mentioned above, has generated over 950 comments. |
10 | | The Periscope Post reviewed tweets by “some key sports commentators [who] insisted that the film has irresponsibly overstated the countries' societal problems, while others welcomed the BBC's expose.” |
11 | The Periscope Post reviderede tweets fra “nogle nøgle-sportskommentatorer, der insisterede på, at filmen på en uansvarlig måde har overvurderet landenes samfundsmæssige problemer, mens andre bød BBCs afsløringer velkommen.” | Below is a selection of excerpts from English-language blogs commenting on the BBC documentary and the issues it raises. LEvko of Foreign Notes commented on the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry's inept response: |
12 | Nedenfor er et udvalg af uddrag fra engelsksprogede blogs, der kommenterer på BBC-dokumentaren og de spørgsmål den rejser. | […] A spokesperson for the Ukrainian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Oleh Voloshyn, today stated the BBC should apologise for the programme. |
13 | LEvko fra Foreign Notes kommenterede det ukrainske udenrigsministeriums utilstrækkelige respons: | He claimed ‘the British side' has never officially protested about the racist displays by Ukrainian fans. […] |
14 | […] En talsmand fra det ukrainske udenrigsministerium, Oleh Voloshyn, sagde i dag, at BBC burde undskylde for programmet. | He should have declared: there will be zero-tolerance at Euro 2012 of racist behaviour, either by home fans or by visitors, and left it at that. |
15 | Han hævdede, at ‘den britiske side' aldrig officielt har protesteret mod racisme udvist af ukrainske fans. | His statements will merely dissuade even more England fans from travelling to Ukraine. Polska Dotty wrote about the need to address the problem of football racism: |
16 | […] Han burde have erklæret, at: der vil ingen tolerance være over for racistisk opførsel fra hverken hjemme-fans eller besøgende, og så have ladet det ligge. | […] On the one hand there has been criticism of the programme that it caricatured the problem, giving the impression travelling to Eastern Europe would be like stepping back into the Third Reich. |
17 | | […] Some of the many bloggers in the two days since Panorama was shown have suggested Poland has concentrated too much on the stadiums and other infrastructure needed for Euro 2012 and not enough on clamping down on the racism/hooliganism amongst fans. |
18 | Hans udtalelser vil kun afskrække engelske fans fra at rejse til Ukraine. | I think that has to be right. In UK we had terrible football hooliganism in the 70s, but it was addressed. |
19 | Polska Dotty skrev om nødvendigheden i at adressere problemet om racisme i fodboldsammenhænge: | To be fair, it took time, so we should be careful how we judge others. |
20 | […] På den ene side har kritikken af programmet været, at det karikerede problemet og har givet det indtryk, at det at rejse til Østeuropa ville svare til at træde tilbage til Det tredje Rige. | If the Poles stamp out the unacceptable behaviour quickly from now on, encouraged to act by the spotlight that has been shone on them, this will be a result. […] Odessablogger explained the use of the word “negr” in Russian and Ukrainian: |
21 | […] Nogle af de mange bloggere har, i de to dage siden Panorama-dokumentaren blev vist, antydet, at Polen har foskuseret for meget på stadionerne og infrastrukturen, som er nødvendig for Euro 2012 og ikke nok på at slå hårdt ned på racismen/hooliganismen blandt fans. | […] Now there is no denying that there is a racist element amongst certain fans and in particular those associated to certain football clubs in Ukraine. However, this heated debate between the Ukrainian Expat community and traveling English fans has now centred over the word “nigger/negro” (негр). |
22 | Jeg er enig i dette. | It is time to be crystal clear. |
23 | I Storbritannien havde vi forfærdelig fodbold-hooliganisme i 70'erne, men det blev håndteret. | In Ukraine and Russia there is no racial derogatory slur attached to the word “nigger/negro”. |
24 | For at være ærlig, så tog det tid, så vi skal være forsigtige med hvordan vi dømmer andre. | It is not an insult here and neither is it meant to be insulting! |
25 | Hvis Polen fra nu af bekæmper den uacceptable opførsel hurtigt, tilskyndet af det søgelys der skinner på dem, vil dette være resultatet. […] | Despite the negativity attached to the word in the UK and other nations, historically and currently, the word nigger has no such undercurrent in Ukraine or Russia. |
26 | Et billede af kortet, vist i BBCs Panorama-dokumentar, der har fejlplaceret og fejlagtigt navngivet nogle lande. | It is not a word that Ukrainians or Russians would use to insult a black person. |
27 | På Thenews.pl's Euro 2012 Blog, skrev Peter Gentle blandt andet om en tilsyneladende mindre kartografisk fejltagelse og effekten denne eventuelt har på publikum: | Cultural, linguistic and historical awareness is a necessity if you are looking for an excuse to call racism over words like nigger in Ukraine. |
28 | […] Og Panorama ville aldrig have været kommet så dårligt fra start i al dens pragt, som Stadiums of Hate gjorde ved at vise et kort 2.28 minutter inde i udsendelsen, over Polen der deler en grænse med…. | Wonder if the BBC or UK media will actually highlight this, or whether they will simply be so ignorant as to see it as a racial insult - that it isn't? A screenshot of the map shown in BBC Panorama's documentary, which misplaced and misnamed some countries. |
29 | Østrig! Medmindre der i al hemmelighed er blevet lavet nogle store ændringer i grænserne og folk rundt i Europa som kun BBC kender til, så grænser Østrig ikke op til Polen. | […] And Panorama would never have got off to a bad a start in its pomp as Stadiums of Hate does, by displaying a map at 2.28 minutes into the programme of Poland sharing a border with … Austria! |
30 | Imens er Den Tjekkiske Republik gledet sydpå og deler grænse med et stort land, der tilsyneladende er Jugoslavien. | Unless there have been huge changes in borders and peoples around Europe, in secret, that only the BBC knows about, then Austria does not border Poland. |
31 | Måske har Panoramas forvirrede idé om kortet over Centraleuropa ikke den store betydning i forbindelse med det forfærdelige billede programmet præsenterer, men forestil dig, at du er en polak der ser dette […] og er nødt til at tage et program seriøst, når det ikke engang ved hvilke lande Polen deler grænser med. […] | Meanwhile, the Czech Republic has slipped south, and borders with a large country which appears to be Yugoslavia. Maybe, Panorama's confused idea of the map of Central Europe is not such a big deal in the context of the vile imagery the programme presents: but imagine if you are a Pole watching this […] and having to take seriously a programme that doesn't even know which countries Poland borders with. […] |
32 | I sit “Brev fra Tennessee til Polen og Ukraine”, skrev Kim Green: | In her “Letter from Tennessee to Poland and Ukraine,” Kim Green wrote: |
33 | […] Det bliver ikke nemt, Polen og Ukraine. | […] Poland and Ukraine, it isn't going to be easy to do this. |
34 | Men jeg bønfalder jer; sæt jer ned og se videoen. | But I implore you: sit down and watch the video. |
35 | Bliv vrede. | Get mad. |
36 | Bliv flove. | Get embarrassed. |
37 | Og så kom videre. | And then, move on. |
38 | Gør rent bord. | Clean house. |
39 | Lad jeres hovedløse rednecks vide, at i synes, de er nogle fjolser, og at i ikke har tænkt jer at finde jer i hagekorsene, de latterlige antisemitiske T-shirts og usammenhængende bannere, der promoverer had. | Let your wrongheaded rednecks know that you think they're complete jack@$$es, and you're not going to put up with the swastikas and the ridiculous anti-semitic t-shirts and the incoherently designed hatemongering banners. |
40 | Og så kan I byde verden velkommen i jeres byer til Euro 2012 og vise dem hvem i virkelig er. […] | And then, you can welcome the world to your cities for Euro 2012 and show them who you really are. […] |
41 | Michał Zachodny, der på sin blog og på Twitter skriver om polsk fodbold, havde dette at sige på The Independents sportsblog: | Michał Zachodny, who writes about Polish football on his blog and on Twitter, had this to say on The Independent's sports blog: |
42 | […] Men der er noget polakkere og ukrainere kan takke BBC for. | […] But there is something Poles and Ukrainians can thank the BBC for. |
43 | Ved at gøre problemet meget større end det i virkeligheden er, ved at vise at begge nationer kæmper med problemerne, ved at kompromittere de ledende instanser, har de fået dem til at reagere. | By making the problem much bigger than it is in reality, by showing that both countries are struggling with the issues, by compromising the governing bodies, they made them react. |
44 | En stærk reaktion, selv en tvungen, er nødvendig for at hjælpe fans med at bevise, at deres svar på og væmmelse over Panorama-udsendelsen, ikke er baseret på tomme løfter og håb. | Strong reaction, even if forced, is needed to help fans prove that their response to, and disgust at, the Panorama show, is not based on empty promises and hopes. |
45 | For uanset hvor skandaløst og uretfærdig behandlingen blev opfattet som værende under programmet mandag aften, er det nu op til værterne at bevise, at BBC tager fejl og Europamesterskaberne er kun begyndelsen. | Because however scandalous and unfair the treatment was perceived to be during the programme on Monday night, it is now up to the hosts to prove the BBC wrong and the European championships are just the start. |
46 | På Polandian skrev Paddymokotow: | At Polandian, Paddymokotow wrote: |
47 | […] Polen burde ikke frygte verdens opmærksomhed. | […] Poland shouldn't be afraid of the world's attention. |
48 | Vi burde glæde os over, at verden holder et spejl op mod dette vidunderlige land. | We should be glad the world is holding a mirror up to this wonderful country. |
49 | Lad os nu vise dets sande billede til verden. | Now let's show the world its true reflection. |
50 | […]Den polske regering har taget politibeskyttelsen og sikkerheden under denne begivenhed meget alvorligt. De ved hvor vigtigt det er for Polens omdømme. | […] The Polish Government has taken the policing and security of this event extremely seriously - they know how important it is to Poland's reputation. |
51 | Du burde tage de samme forholdsregler, du som turist ville tage, ved besøg i en hver anden ukendt by, men ikke mere end det. Hvilket minder mig om min rejse til Sydafrika ved VM. | You should take the same care you'd take visiting any unknown city as a tourist, but not more. Which reminds me of my trip to South Africa for the World Cup. |
52 | Storbritanniens medier brugte meget tid på at tale om den udbredte kriminalitet, frygtelige HIV-rater og ekstrem fattigdom i tiden op til og sagde at nogle engelske fans ‘næsten med sikkerhed ville dø.' | The UK media spent a lot of time talking about the rampant crime, terrifying HIV rates and extreme poverty in the run up to the football- saying some England fans were ‘virtually certain to die.' |
53 | Men ikke én engelsk fan blev arresteret eller myrdet i den måned. | But not one England fan was arrested or killed in that month. |
54 | Men at bevise at medierne tog fejl om Sydafrika, beviser ikke de tager fejl om Polen - det er op til polakkerne efter kick off.[ …] | But proving the media wrong about South Africa doesn't prove them wrong about Poland - that's up to everyone Polish person when kick off begins. […] |
55 | På The Guardians Comment-is-free, skrev Natalia Antonova dette om situationen i Ukraine: | On The Guardian's Comment is free, Natalia Antonova wrote this about the situation in Ukraine: |
56 | […] Ordensmagten er meget opmærksom på muligheden for en skandale. | […] Law-enforcement officials are keenly aware of the possibility of scandal. |
57 | Min kilde fra det ukrainske politi fortalte mig i denne uge, at “folk der bliver afhentet af politiet i forbindelse med kriminalitet, får fortalt, at hvis de laver nogen ballade under turneringen, bliver der en helvedes ballade. | My source in the Ukrainian police told me this week: “People being picked up by the police for crimes are being told that should they cause any trouble during the tournament, there will be hell to pay. |
58 | Og betjentene selv bliver advaret mod at chikanere udlændinge.” | And officers themselves are being cautioned to think twice about harassing foreigners.” |
59 | Måske vil Ukraine være et mere sikkert sted for udlændinge end for indbyggere under Euro 2012. | It may be that during Euro 2012, Ukraine will be a safer place for foreigners than for citizens. |
60 | Som en af mine venner, en tidligere anklager, sagde til mig i denne uge: “Nogle forældre er bange for, at deres børn bliver ofre for udenlandske sex-turister under turneringen! | As a friend of mine who is a former prosecutor told me this week: “Some parents are worried that their children will fall prey to foreign sex-tourists during the tournament! |
61 | Som du kan se, kan disse bekymringer om sikkerhed gå begge veje. | As you can see, these kinds of safety concerns can go both ways. |
62 | Men Kiev er klar til fans, byen er peppet op, og jeg tror at alt vil gå godt. ”[ | But Kiev is ready for the fans, the city is spruced up, and I think all will turn out well.” […] |
63 | …] En af de 220 kommentarer til indlægget af Definatelynotashark siger: | One of the 220 comments to this post, by Definatelynotashark, reads: |
64 | Kan nogen nævne en stor sportsbegivenhed, der ikke havde disse overskrifter i tiden op til? | Can anyone name me a major sporting event that didnt have these headlines in the run up? |
65 | Ser folk i Europa dokumentarer om optøjerne i Tottenham og advarer dem om farerne ved London forud for olympiaden? | Are people in Europe watching documentaries showing the Tottenham riots and warning them of the dangers of London in advance of the Olympics? |
66 | Tag til Ukraine, tag ansvarlige forholdsregler, opfør dig fornuftigt, nyd det! | Go to Ukraine, take reasonable precautions, act sensibly, enjoy! |