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1 | China: Netizens defend Zimbabwe arms sales | Shina : Tohanan'ireo mponin'ny Aterineto Shinoa ny varotra fitaovam-piadiana hoan'i Zimbaboe |
2 | As the post-election crisis looms in Zimbabwe and Mugabe clings to power, the fate of the vessel holding the latest arms shipment from China remains unclear. | Satria tsy mety tapitra ny krizy nateraky ny fifidianana tany Zimbaboe, sady izay koa i Robert Mugabe mifikitra amin'ny fitondrana, dia tsy mety mazava izay hiafaran'ilay sambo mirongo ireo fiadiana farany nafarana avy any Shina. |
3 | Sightings of armed uniformed Chinese soldiers in the country have for some raised the question: how long have they been there and what exactly is their role? | Nahavelom-panontaniana ohatra ny fahatazanana ireo miaramila Shinoa any Mutare : hafiriana no hijanonany eto ary inona marina no andraikitr'izy ireo ? |
4 | Official statements made by Beijing defend the weapons as merely part of an old contractual agreement, saying the sales don't violate any UN mandates or international laws. | Ny fanambarana ofisialy re avy any Shina dia manambara ireto fitaovam-piadiana ho toy ny ampahany amin'ny fifanekem-barotra efa nipetraka ka tsy manitsakitsaka mihitsy izay fepetra noraisin'ny Firenena Mikambana na lalàna Iraisam-pirenena hafa. |
5 | Many Chinese netizens are rejecting criticism by accusing America of being an even larger weapons dealer. | Toherin'ny mponin'ny Aterineto Shinoa [netizens] maro ireo tsikera ireo sady ampangainy ho i Zamerika [USA] aza no tena mpanondrana fitaovam-piadiana be lavitra indrindra. |
6 | Reports in recent days have made little mention of Chinese military presence in Zimbabwe, instead focusing heavily on the issue of Chinese arms sales itself; here are the top reader comments on the related news stories from several Chinese BBSes and news portal websites: | Tsy dia nandrenesana tatitra firy momba ny fisian'ireo miaramila Shinoa any Zimbaboe ny andro lasa vitsy izay naleon-dry zareo nanindry mafy mikasika ny hoavin'ity varotra fitaovam-piadiana Shinoa ity; indreto adika eto ambany eto ny sangany amin'ireo hafatra izay napetraky ny mpamaky ho tohin'ireo lahatsoratra tamin'ny vohikala fampahalalam-baovao BBS [Bulletin board system] Shinoa sy mpanolotra vaovao isan-karazany hafa : |
7 | anti-CNN.com: | anti-CNN.com: |
8 | This is a good start; you can't let those in charge go around burning down houses while common people can't even light lamps!!! | “Tena tsara fiantomboka izany; Tsy azo avela handoro trano amin'izao ireo izay eo am-pitondrana, anefa ny vahoaka amin'izany tsy manana izay handrehetana labozia akory!!!” |
9 | American imperialism is really what's in control of the dalai bandit terrorist groups!! | “Ny Imperialisma Amerikana dia tena ao ambadiky ny Dalaï Lama sy ny andiam-jiolahy “terôrista” izay mpiaradia aminy!!” |
10 | China needs to rise up!!! | Mitsangana amin'izao ianao ry Shina a!!! |
11 | Even if [Chinese soldiers] are on patrol, so what? | “Dia maninona kay raha misy miaramila Shinoa mandehadeha any ? |
12 | You Yanks, Limeys and Krauts can go patrol Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Japan and the whole world, but Chinese soldiers can't go patrol Zimbabwe? | Ianareo Amerikana,sy Anglisy ary Alemàna [anaram-bosotra fanesoana] ve afaka mandehadeha any Afghanistana, any Kôrea, any Japàna sy eran'izao tontolo izao, fa ny miaramila Shinoa tsy mahazo mandehadeha any Zimbaboe ? |
13 | That's really bloody screwy logic! | Izany ka atao hoe fomba fihevitra mitombona.” |
14 | IronBlood BBS: | IronBlood BBS: |
15 | China selling ships full of weapons to Zimbabwe is a completely legal exchange, China hasn't done anything wrong. | “Tena ara-dalàna mihitsy ny varotra mifehy ity sambo iray feno fitaovam-piadiana Shinoa hoan'i Zimbaboe ity, tsy misy izay fahadisooan'i Shina mihitsy amin'ity raharaha ity.” |
16 | Hoodlum logic…and then they blame us for not being secretive enough about it? | “Fihevitry ny jiolahimboto … dia isika indray ve no omeny tsiny satria tsy nahay nitazona ny tsiambaratelo mikasika ity varotra fitaovam-piadiana ity ?” |
17 | What's wrong with selling weapons? | “Fa inona hay no olana amin'ny fivarotana fitaovam-piadiana e ? |
18 | Heaps and heaps of American weapons go to Taiwan and no one makes a sound | Tsy azo zoviana intsony ny habetsahan'ireo fitaovam-piadiana izay araraky ny Amerikana any Taiwan” |
19 | Western media just like to dump shit on our country Why is our country's external propaganda so powerless? | “Ireo fantsona fampahalalam-baovao dia mtoy ny mametraka maloto fotsiny eo an-dohantsika Nahoana ary no dia maivana ny fanapariaham-peon'ny firenentsika ?” |
20 | I believe the government will resolve this properly; after all, Western countries' influence in Africa doesn't compare closely with ours! | “Izaho matoky fa halamin'ny fanjakana miadana ity raharaha ity; tsy sahala ny herin'ny fandresen-dahatr'ireo Tandrefana sy ny antsika!” |
21 | Is ‘we didn't do anything wrong' all that we can say? | “Moa ve ny hoe ‘Tsy nisy izay fahadisoana nataontsika' no mba hany azontsika avaly ? |
22 | The day China no longer has to respond as the weaker side Those will be the days when we stand out | Rehefa tonga ny andro izay tsy hamalian'i Shina tsikera mikasika izay mety ho fahalemeny Amin'izay andro izay i Shina vao azo atao heverina ho isan'ireo sangany” |
23 | Legitimacy comes with power in this world; only when China takes America down will we then have legitimate status. | “Izay matanjaka ihany no manana ny rarainy amin'ity tany ity; rehefa afaka manajedaka an'i Amerika ihany i Shina vao hanana ny maha-izy azy. |
24 | Otherwise, China will never have legitimacy in the eyes of Western politicians and media. | Raha tsy izany dia ho voaozona hataon'ireo fantsona fampahalalam-baovao Tandrefana tsinotsinona i Shina.” |
25 | We just send a bit of that stuff and people get all worked up. | “Mbola izay vitsy fotsiny no namidintsika dia efa mikorapaka ny vahoaka. |
26 | Sigh. | Indrisy. |
27 | We really have no face now. | Tena tsy manana izay maha-izy azy mihintsy isika. |
28 | Selling them to bin Laden or Iraqi opposition groups might not be such a bad idea. | Angamba tsy dia hevi-dratsy loatra ny fivarotana ireny amin'i Ben Laden na ireo antoko mpanohitra Irakiana.” |
29 | Just ignore them, they say what they want, and we sell what we want. | “Aza miraharaha azy, aleo izy hilaza izay tiany hambara, fa amidintsika [foana] izay tiantsika varotana.” |
30 | We haven't done anything wrong | “Tsy nisy izay fahadisoana nataontsika” |
31 | Right! | “Raikitra ary ! |
32 | Take this to the UN and smack the table and tell them: ‘we'll sell arms if we want to. | Entò eo imason'ny Firenena Mikambana ity rahara ity e, dia sady mikapoka totohondry madon-databatra no miteny hoe : ‘raha ho tohizanay ny fivarotana fitaovam-piadiana satria izany no mahamiramirana ny fonay. |
33 | What you gonna do about it?' | Dia hanao inona ary ianao ?' ” |
34 | Sohu: | Sohu: |
35 | The arms trade between China and Zimbabwe is completely legal, though we should be more careful during this sensitive time, so as not to give anyone the upper hand. | “Tena ara-dalàna ny fifanekem-barotra nifanaovan'i Shina sy i Zimbaboe, na dia izany aza dia mila mailò isika mandritra izao fotoana sarotra izao, mba tsy mora hararaotin'ny sasany” |
36 | This is just proof of American imperialistic discrimination and attack toward us | “Ity dia porofon'ny fanaovan'ny Imperialista Amerikana mizana tsindrian'ila sady fikendrena antsika” |
37 | Non-interference in other countries' domestic affairs is something China proposed, but it seems like China is the only country which abides by it. | “Shina dia nanao tolokevitra ny ametraana ny ‘tsy fitsabatsabahana amin'ny raharaha anatin'ny firenen-kafa', anefa dia toa i Shina ihany no mampihatra izany tokoa. |
38 | The world interferes with the world. | Midimiditra amin'izay raharaha manerantany izao tontolo izao. |
39 | It's hard for China to apply its theories to practice, they're so far out from the rest of the world. | Sarotra amin'i Shina ny hampihatra izay tolokeviny satria mifanipaka loatra izay fanaon'izao tontolo izao izany. |
40 | China ought to prop up the pro-China regimes and forces around the world, and consolidate its allies. | Tokony hotohanan'i Shina ireo firenena sy fitondrana izay mba manohana azy sady manampy mba hampantanjaka azy ireny. |
41 | The more friends China has, the wider the roads on which to move. | Satria miankina amin'ny isan'ireo naman'i Shina no hampahalalaka ny làlana ho diaviny. |
42 | China's policy of non-intervention is another form of closed-door policy, cutting itself off from the outside world. | Ny pôlitikan'ny ‘tsy fitsabatsabahana amin'ny raharaha anatin'ny firenen-kafa' izay arahin'i Shina dia mbola endrika hafan'ny pôlitika mirindrim-baravarana ka manao azy ankila-baon'izao tontolo izao. |
43 | On the 17th, the SABC, all radio stations, The Star and The Citizen newspapers and other media all splashed the news that “Chinese Arms” had arrived in South Africa and weren't being allowed to be shipped on to Zimbabwe. | Tamin'ny faha-17-n'ny volana, ny SABC, sy ireo radio rehetra, ireo gazety The Star sy The Citizen sy ireo fantsona fampahalalam-baovao rehetra [any Afrika Atsimo] dia samy mandrovy ivy nanapariaka momba ireo “fitaovam-piadiana Shinoa” izay tonga tany Afrika Atsimo saingy tsy navel hiantsona sy hotaterina any Zimbaboe.” |
44 | The “Poly” Corp has made another stupid mistake! | “Tena nanao hadalana vendrana ny “Poly” Corp !” |
45 | Now South Africa's bullying China too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | “Aiza fa ankehitriny na Afrika Atsimo [kely io aza] dia sahy mitifitra an'i Shina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” |
46 | We shouldn't be selling weapons to these rotten people. | “Tsy tokony ivarotantsika fitaovam-piadiana ry zalahy efa lomorina ireo.” |
47 | Chinese arms are traded legally! | “Ara-dalàna ireo fivarotana fitaovam-piadiana Shinoa! |
48 | Without question, anyone who obstructs them will be subject to sanctions from China! | Tsy tokony hisy adihevitra fa izay rehetra manakantsakana izany dia omen'i Shina famaizana! |
49 | If Western countries intercepts them, China will see to equivalent retaliation! | Ary raha ireo firenena Tandrefena no manao izany, dia hikaroka izay fomba hamaliana faty koa i Shina !” |
50 | We shouldn't be damaging our reputation for such petty profit. | “Tsy tokony atakalontsika izay tombom-barotra bitika toy izany ny maha-izy antsika. |
51 | The company exporting these weapons is doing effective damaging China's long-term prospects. | Ny orinasa izay manondrna ireo fitaovam-piadiana ireo dia tena hiteraka voka-dratsy maharitra hoan'i Shina.” |
52 | Of course this trade is legal, it's just not very moral. | “Eny e, ara-dalàna iny fifanaraham-barotra iny, saingy tsy dia mendrika loatra. |
53 | Although, America did in the past sell weapons to Saddam. | Ankilan'izany, Amerika koa aza mba nivarotra fitaovam-piadiana hoan'i Saddam tamin'ny fotoan'androny. |
54 | Is other people's immoral behavior justification for you to do the same? | Moa ve izay fitondrantena tsy mendrika ataon'ny hafa no fialantsiny tsika hanao toy izy ireny koa ? |
55 | I'd hope our compatriots would consider this carefully. | Maniry aho ny hiheveran'ireo mpiray tanindrazana amiko tsara momba izany.” |
56 | That's Western media for you, diverting attention. | “Ireo fantsona fampahalalam-baovao tandrefana dia misarika ny mason'ny mpamaky lavitr'izay tena olana.” |
57 | The government doesn't know what it's doing, all these huge bumbles this year!!?!! | “Manaonao foana ny governemanta, tsy misy fitsaharany ny hadalana tao anatin'ny taona iray monja !!?!! |
58 | Let's take advantage of that!!! | Andao hararaotina izao !!! |
59 | It's depressing!!! | Tena mahakivy ihany izany !!!” |
60 | The Chinese government must ensure that these arms arrive in Zimbabwe safely, or else from now on regular arms trade shipments will be subject to heavy attack. | “Tokony ataon'ny governemanta Shinoa izay ahatongavan'ireny fitaovam-piadiana ireny an-tsakany sy an-davany any Zimbaboe, raha tsy izany manombok'izao dia hisy fitsikerana mafy isak'izay manondrana fitaovam-piadiana i Shina.” |
61 | The anti-China West is hell-bent on hurting us | “Ny fanoherana be fahatany an'i Shina izay ataon'ny Tandrefana dia fanaovana antsika helo mba handratrana antsika” |
62 | Despicable West, China should order two aircraft carriers from America | “Ry Tandrefana tsinotsinona, tokony hividy fiaramanidina vaventy mpitatitra entana avy amin'ny Amerikana i Shina” |
63 | Damn, you'd think America'd never sold arms before | “Oadray, fa ianareo ve mihevitra fa tsy nivarotra fitaovam-piadiana mihitsy ny Amerikana taloha hatrizay” |
64 | It's illegal when the Chinese sell weapons, but legal when they do it, what kind of backwards logic is this? | “Tsy ara-dalàna hono rehefa ny Shinoa no mivarotra fitaovam-piadiana, saingy ara-dalàna rehefa ry zareo no manao izany, fomba fihevitra manao akory koa izany ?” |
65 | America is the largest arms exporter in the world | “Amerika no mpivarotra fitaovam-piadiana be indrindra eran-tany” |
66 | Strongly suggest we sink American arms freighters to Taiwan!!!! | “Izaho indray manolotra sosokevitra ny handetehana ireo sambo mirongo fiadiana Amerikana hoan'i Taïwan !!!!” |
67 | Pure slander! | “Fanalam-baraka fotsiny izany e ! |
68 | Would our Chinese government do something as impudent and outrageous as peddle munitions? | Ny governemantanay Shinoa ve dia hahavita zavatra mahamenatrasy mamofady toy ny bala mipariaka ? |
69 | Only America does things like that!!! | Ny Amerikana ihany no mahavita izany e !!!” |
70 | Anti-China types are everywhere. | “Hita eny rehetra eny ireo mpanohitra be fahatany an'i Shina.” |
71 | China sells munitions all the time. | “Efa hatrizay hatrizay i Shina no mivarotra bala.” |
72 | America, no more selling weapons to Taiwan from now on! | “Amerika, atsaharò manombok'izao ny fivarotana fitaovam-piadiana any Taïwan!” |
73 | We have to stop making excuses When foreigners take actions against us!!!! | “Tokony tsy mitady fialantsiny isika Rehefa misy vahiny mandray fepetra hanoheran antsika !!!! |
74 | We have to defend our own interests! | Mila miaroizay tombontsoantsika isika ! |
75 | Spring to action! | Andao hihetsika ! |
76 | We have to act! | Mila mandray fepetra dieny izao isika!” |
77 | America is the largest arms dealer in the world. | “Amerika no mpivarotra fitaovam-piadaiana be indrindra eran'izao tontolo izao.” |
78 | China can start seizing weapons America sells to Taiwan | “Afaka manomboka mametra ireo fivarotana fitaovam-piadiana Amerikana any Taïwan, i Shina” |
79 | China! | “Ô ry Shina ! |
80 | We must be strong! | Mila matanjaka isika ! |
81 | We must act. | Mila mandray fepetra.” |
82 | That we have no aircraft carriers is unacceptable | “Tena fahadisoana bevava mihitsy ny tsy-fananantsika fiaramanidina fitaterana an'habakabaka” |
83 | The mistake is that China has no aircraft carriers | “Ny tsy fananan'i Shina fiaramanidina vaventy mpitatitra entana no tena hadisoana” |
84 | China is a sovereign state, China hasn't done anything wrong. | “Firenena masi-mandidy i Shina, tsy nisy fahadisoana nataony.” |
85 | We don't need to make the entire free world our enemy. | “Tsy ilaintsika halaina ho fahavalo izao tontolo izao.” |
86 | A third-class country like South Africa dares say no to China? | “Firenena ary amin'ny klasy ambany fahatelo ary ve dia mahasaky manohitra an'i Shina ? |
87 | China ought to learn from Putin, and be more tough. | Mila mianatra avy amin'i Putin, mba ho henjana kokoa i Shina. |
88 | People won't dare messing with us then. | Tsy sahin'ny olona hanihaniana intsony isika amin'izay” |
89 | From China.com: | Avy amin'i China.com : |
90 | There goes CNN again | “Miala any indray ny CNN” |
91 | We should start selling some to Al Qaeda, let them take on the US and NATO. | “Tokony hanomboka hivarotantsika fitaovana koa ny Al Quaïda, aleo ry zareo no hifanazava amin'ny Amerikana sy ny OTAN” |
92 | This seems strange to me. | “Somary mahazendana ahy ihany izy ity. |
93 | China gets blamed for everything, whether it's right or not, and it's all Chinese people's fault. | Tsikeraina amin'izay rehetra zavatra rehetra mitranga izao i Shina na zony izany na tsia, sady atobaka amin'ny vahoaka Shinoa manontolo ny fahadisoana. |
94 | Who's manipulating world public opinion? | Iza ihany no ao ambadiky ny fanodikodinantsaim-bahoaka ? |
95 | Who's tormenting China?!! | Iza no mikendry an'i Shina ?!!” |
96 | Any country as long as they support China, we should start selling them more weapons | “N'iza n'iza firenena mbola manohana an'i Shina, dia tokony hanomboka hivarotantsika fitaovam-piadiana bebe kokoa izy ireny” |
97 | How much of the world market for munitions trade is taken up by America? | “Firy ny tahan'ny tsenan'ny fivarotana bala izay an'ny Amerikana ? |
98 | England? | Anglisy ? |
99 | France? | Frantsa ? |
100 | And how much of it is taken up by China? | Ary ampaha-firiny ny an'i Shina ? |
101 | Being as we are the factory of the world, the current ratio is completely normal. | Amin'ny maha “ozinin'izao tontolo izao” antsika, rariny mihitsy io tahan-tsena ankehitriny io. |
102 | Just as it's normal that we stand to overtake America! | Ary rariny koa raha mihevitra ny hisongona ny Amerikana isika !” |
103 | ”China hasn't done anything wrong” Can we stop saying this so much from now on? | “ “Tsy misy fahadisoana nataon'i Shina” Moa ve azontsika atsahatra hatreo ny fameremberenana izany ?” |
104 | I just feel that we ought not to be selling weapons to African countries in turmoil, or near to turmoil. | “Ohatry ny tonga saina ihany aho fa tsy tokony ivarotantsika fitaovam-piadiana ireo firenena Afrikana efa ao anatin'ny hotakotaka, na manamorona izany. |
105 | Aren't the different ethnicities in Africa fighting intensely enough as it is? | Tsy ampy ve ireo adim-poko maro efa misy any Afrika ?” |
106 | QQ: | QQ: |
107 | Don't we strongly love peace? | “F'angaha moa isika tsy fatra-pandala ny fandriampahalemana e ? |
108 | Selling weapons to killers is always wrong. | Fahadisoana hatrany ny mivarotra fitaovam-piadiana amin'ny [izay efa fantatra fa] mpamono olona” |
109 | You can sell them, but we can't? | “Ianareo izany afaka mivarotra, fa izahay tsia ? |
110 | You can sell them freely, but we can only sell under restrictions? | Ianareo izany afaka mivarotra malalaka, fa izahay feperana ? |
111 | What bandit's logic is this! | Oadray izany loham-jiolahimboto ! |
112 | Just try savagely provoking us, and tomorrow we'll haul out the atom bombs to sell-to Cuba! | Ilao ady ihany ange izahay raha tsy ivarotanay baomba atômika sy taterinay any Kioba e ! |
113 | We'll see how you handle that! | Ho hita amin'izay izay afitsokareo !” |
114 | China's selling small arms now. | “Androany mbola fitaovam-piadiana madinika no amidin'i Shina. |
115 | Soon they'll be bigger, more advanced. | Hitombo sy handroso kokoai zy atsy ho atsy. |
116 | Support, support, support……… Strong China | Tohany, tohany, tohany hatrany……… Maherezà ianao ry Shina” |
117 | I bet it if was them selling weapons to Zimbabwe, China wouldn't say a word. | “Iza no hifanamby amiko fa raha ry zareo no nivarotra fitaovam-piadiana tamin'i Zimbaboe, tsy hiloa-bava i Shina. |
118 | And why not? | Satria nahoana ? |
119 | Those gwailos know exactly why | Fantatr'ireo “gwailos” [devoly vahiny] tsara izay antony” |
120 | We ought to teach them a lesson, see how arrogant they are then! | “Nitsitsy tsy nananatra azy ireo isika dia jereo ankehitriny ny fiavonavonany !” |
121 | Selling weapons for profit is just the natural thing to do | “Ny fakana tombony avy amin'ny fivarotana fitaovam-piadiana dia zavatra laha-janahary” |
122 | Are we selling atom bombs? | “Mivarotra baomba Atômika ve isika ? |
123 | I'll take 3! | Mba omeo telo eo aho azafady” |
124 | NetEase: | NetEase: |
125 | There goes CNN again, spreading more hurtful fracking rumors | “Miala any indray ny CNN, manapariaka tsaho maro mandratra hafa” |
126 | Damn, the mainland is in a state of war with Taiwan right now, so if anyone's boats move in to Taiwan, China can demand to search them. | “Oadray, manombok'izao ny vohitany [Shina] dia an'ady amin'i Taïwan, koa raha misy sambo mizotra ho any Taïwan, afaka savain'i Shina izy ireny. |
127 | Especially those Japanese or American devils'. | Indrindra indrindra ireo satana Japôney na Amerikana . |
128 | If you're Chinese, click this comment up. | Raha Shinoa ianao, tsindrio ity hafatra ity.” |
129 | China urgently needs several large aircraft carriers and a pack of fighter jets. | “Mila fiaramanidina vaventy fitaterana an'habakabaka maromaro sy andiam-piaramanidina mpiady amin'ny fomba maika i Shina !” |
130 | We need to be even harder on incidents like this. | “Mila henjana kokoa isika amin'ny toe-javatra toy itony. |
131 | Why? | Nahoana ? |
132 | Because since we don't dare stand up to any developed countries like the US, France or England, if any countries of equal or smaller size pick anything with us, we'll lose all respect. | Satria tsy mahasahy miatrika ireo firenena mandroso toa an'ny USA, Frantsa na Anglisy isika, ary raha toa ka izay firenen-drehetra mitovitovy halehibe na kely rehetra izao dia hila vaniny amintsika, tsy misy hanaja antsika intsony.” |
133 | China needs aircraft carriers to protect its own interests! | “Mila fiaramanidina fitaterana an'habakabaka mba hiarovany ireo tombotsoany i Shina !” |
134 | How is it that even South Africa is bullying China now? | “Aiza ve rangahy fa na dia i Afrika Atsimo kely io aza dia mahasaky mitifitra an'i Shina ankehitriny ? |
135 | I think we definitely need a battle to earn our respect as a major nation!!!! | Heveriko fa mila mandray anjara amin'ny ady indray mandeha isika mba [hahitan'ny hafa ny herintsika sy] hanajan'ireo firenen-kafa antsika ho toy ny sangany amin'ireo firenena !!!!” |