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1 | China: Forgiving the Tiananmen Massacre Murderers? | Shina: Avela Heloka Ny Mpandripaka Olona Tao Tiananmen? |
2 | While more than 180,000 people attended the annual candlelight vigil on June 4, 2012, in Hong Kong demanding the vindication of China's June 4th incident (Tiananmen Square protests), exiled former student leader Chai Ling wrote in the Huffington Post that she has forgiven the murderers of the massacre. | Nandritra ny fotoana nanatrehan'olona mihoatra ny 180.000 ny fiareta-tory fanao isan-taona tamin'ny 4 Jona 2012 tao Hong Kong mitaky ny hamaliana faty an'i Shina noho ny zava-nitranga tamin'ny 4 jona (hetsi-panoherana tao an-kianjan'i Tiananmen) no nanoratan'ilay mpitarika mpianatra teo aloha manao sesintany ny tenany Chai Ling tao amin'ny Huffington Post fa efa navelany ny heloky ny mpamono olona nandritra ny fandripahana. |
3 | Disagreeing with Chai Ling's stand, another former student leader Wang Dan issued a public statement via Facebook and stirred up a lot of debate. | Tsy manaiky izany ijoroan'i Chai Ling izany ny mpitarika mpianatra iray hafa Wang Dan ka namoaka fanambarana ampahibemaso izay niteraka adi-hevitra. |
4 | Below is a video showing the scene of the candlelight vigil for the 23rd anniversary of the 1989 Tiananmen Massacre in Victoria Park, Hong Kong (uploaded to YouTube by MrZuluLo): | Eto ambany ny lahatsary mampiseho ny fiareta-tory (fitazonana labozia) ho fahatsiarovana ny faha-23 taona ny Fandripahana tao Tiananmen notontosaina tao amin'ny Victoria Park, Hong Kong (navoakan'i MrZuluLo): |
5 | Chai Ling said she had forgiven Deng Xiaoping and Li Peng who had ordered the people's army to wipe out the students and Beijing residents at Tiananmen Square in 1989, as well as the current leadership of China who continue to suppress people. | Nilaza i Chai Ling fa efa navelany ny helok'i Deng Xiaoping sy Li Peng izay nanome baiko ny tafi-bahoaka handripaka ny mpianatra sy ny mponin'i Beijing teo amin'ny kianjan'i Tiananmen tamin'ny 1989, ary toy izany koa ny mpitondra ao Shina amin'izao fotoana izao izay mbola mangeja ny vahoaka. |
6 | Upon reading her article, Wang Dan wrote [zh] on his Facebook page: | Teo ampamakiana ny lahatsorany i Wang Dan no nanoratra [zh] izao teo amin'ny takelaka Facebook: |
7 | I respect Chai Ling's opinion which is based upon her religious beliefs. | Hajaiko ny hevitr'i Chai Ling mifototra amin'ny finoany. |
8 | However, I could not agree with that. | Saingy, tsy afa-manaiky izany aho. |
9 | Before the murderers express their remorse and apology and when the murderers continue to kill others, there is no base for forgiveness. | Raha mbola tsy manenina sy miala tsiny amin'izany ny mpamono olona ary raha mbola mamono ny hafa ny mpamono olona, tsy misy ny toerana ho amin'ny famelan-keloka. |
10 | Such forgiveness is unfair to the victims of June 4 Incident. | Tsy mety amin'ny niharan'ny zava-nitranga tamin'ny 4 jona ny famelan-keloka toy izany. |
11 | I hope the world should know that Chai Ling's view can only stand for herself and her beliefs. | Manantena aho fa ho fantatr'izao tontolo izao hoe hevitra sy finoana manokan'i Chai Ling io. |
12 | It cannot represent the students of the 1989 incident. | Tsy misolotena ny mpianatra niharan'ny toe-draharaha 1989 io. |
13 | I also urge Chai Ling to distinguish the difference between religious beliefs and value judgements. | Mandrisika an'i Chai Ling koa aho hanavaka ny finoana arahina sy ny fomba fitsarana. |
14 | There are more than 200 comments under the statement, the majority supporting Wang Dan and questioning Chai Ling's stand. | Nihoatra ny 200 ny fanehoan-kevitra nanaraka ny fanambarana, manohana an'i Wang Dan ny ankamaroany ary manontany an'i Chai Ling. |
15 | Below is a selection of some typical ones [zh]: | Eto ambany ny nofantenina tamin'izany [zh]: |
16 | Marianne Wong: We are talking about manslaughter! | Marianne Wong: Miresaka famonoan'olona isika! |
17 | Forgiveness should be after admission of one's guilt. | Tokony aorian'ny fanekena ny fisian-keloka ny famelan-keloka. |
18 | Alexander Shen: I always has the feeling that she is not a good person. | Alexander Shen: Tahaka ny nahatsapa izany aho fa tsy olona tsara izy. |
19 | She let others shed blood while she ran away; she has become a different person in the past 23 years. | Avelany ny hafa hampandriaka ny rà raha nandositra izy; lasa olona hafa izy 23 taona aty aoriana. |
20 | She is now a narrow minded person. | Lasa olona tery saina izy ankehitriny. |
21 | 陳柏年: I am also a Christian. | 陳柏年: Kristiana ihany koa aho. |
22 | Apart from love another, a core value in Christianity is justice, which is most needed for students who were involved in the 1989 protest, Chinese people and China, the emerging nation. | Ankoatra ny fitiavana ny hafa, soatoavina fototra ao amin'ny Kristianisma ihany koa ny rariny, izay ilain'ny mpianatra tafiditra tamin'ny fanoherana 1989 indrindra, ilain'ny vahoaka Shinoa sy i Shina, ilay firenena mipongatra. |
23 | Wen-shin Lee: Chai Ling can choose to forgive. | Wen-shin Lee: Nisafidy ny hamela i Chai Ling. |
24 | But it doesn't mean that justice should not be served. | Saingy tsy midika izany hoe tsy tokony toavina ny rariny. |
25 | The victim can choose to forgive but the convicted has to pay legal responsibility for what they have done. | Afa-mifidy ny hamela ny nihara-pamonoana saingy tsy maintsy manefa ny vitany eo anatrehan'ny lalàna ny voaheloka. |
26 | Autumn Moon: ”I am not anti anything, including China. | Autumn Moon: ”Tsy manohitra na inona na inona aho, ary natin'izany i Shina. |
27 | But I will advocate for the truth and I want the truth to be known. | Saingy hisolo vava ny marina aho ary tiako raha fantatra ny marina. |
28 | ” - HH Karmapa | ” - HH Karmapa |
29 | 早雲直心: Had she not escaped, would she still talk like this? | 早雲直心: Tsy nandositra moa izy, mbola hiteny tahaka izao ihany ve izy? |
30 | Ming Zhou: Chai Ling already made the choice 23 years ago and become a public figure. | Ming Zhou: Efa nanao ny safidiny i Chai Ling 23 taona lasa izay ary lasa olona fanta-daza. |
31 | As a public figure, she has to face the public. | Amin'ny maha-olona fanta-bahoaka azy, tsy maintsy miatrika ny olona izy. |
32 | She has disappointed me. | Nandiso fanantenana ahy izy. |
33 | She has suffered, she lost her mother when she was 25. | Nijaly izy, tsy hitany ny reniny raha mbola 25 taona izy. |
34 | But her mother has not lost her, she is still alive today in a democratic country where she can breathe freely and talk freely… But does she think for the Tiananmen parents? | Saingy tsy very azy ny reniny, mbola velona miresaka sy miaina malalaka ao anatina firenena demokratika izy… Fa miteny amin'ny anaran'ny havan'ny tao amin'ny Tiananmen ve izy? |
35 | Their kids fought with Chai Ling for democracy and she was a leader for those kids. | Niady niaraka tamin'i Chai Ling hisian'ny demokrasia ny zanak'izy ireo. |
36 | The 23 years of suffering of these parents is too tremendous to be compared with Chai Ling's experience. | Goavana loatra ny 23 taona nijalian'ireo ray aman-dreny ireo raha oharina tamin'izay niainan'i Chai Ling. |
37 | Chai's behavior has provided an opportunity for mean comments such as: “People with such qualities were leading the student movement. | Manjary afahafahana miteny ny tahaka izao ny fihetsik'i Chai: “Olona tahaka izao no nitarika ny hetsiky ny mpianatra. |
38 | Fortunately it was not successful or else China would be ruined.” | Soa ihany fa tsy nahomby fa raha tsy izany dia potika i Shina.” |
39 | I hope Wang Dan can talk with Chai Ling in private as a 1989 “comrade”. | Manantena aho fa afa-niteny an'i Chai Ling ho “kamarady” i Wang Dan any amin'ny takona any tamin'ny 1989. |
40 | Even though people can make different choice, please ask Chai not to insult June 4, don't break the heart of Tiananmen parents, don't do anything this is harmful to the Chinese democratic movement. | Na dia samy manana ny safidiny aza ny tsirairay, iangavio i Chai tsy hanompa ny 4 Jona, aza vakiana ny fon'ny ray aman-drenin'ny tao Tiananmen, aza manao zavatra manimba ny hetsika demokratika Shinoa. |
41 | She can disappear, shut the door and say her prayers. | Afa-manjavona izy, manakatona ny varavarana ary mivavaka. |
42 | Don't make such kind of low standard statements in front of others. | Aza manao zavatra mirefarefa izany eo anatrehan'ny hafa. |
43 | I believe God will not agree with what she is doing. | Mino aho fa tsy manaiky ny nataony Andriamanitra. |
44 | A few comments defended Chai on religious grounds: | Misy ny hevitra vitsy manohana an'i Chai eo amin'ny lafiny ara-pivavahana: |
45 | Edward Lim: Chai is not wrong. | Edward Lim: Tsy diso i Chai. |
46 | To forgive is to release oneself from hatred that continues to harm no one but oneself. | Mamela heloka midika ho fanafahana ny olona iray hiala amin'ny fankahalàna izay mbola mandratra tsy olon-kafa fa ny tena ihany. |
47 | Without peace in heart, one's life cannot be restored from pain and cannot move on healthily. | Raha tsy misy ny fiadanam-po, tsy sitrana amin'ny fijaliana ary tsy afa-mandehandeha salama tsara. |
48 | Praying for the opponents is to give oneself strength to journey on. | Mivavaka amin'ny fahavalo mba hampatanjaka ny tena mandritra ny andro. |
49 | Justice still needs to be asked on behalf of the victims. | Mbola angatahana amin'ny anaran'ny niharam-pahavoazana ny Fitsarana. |
50 | Jesus set the example to forgive before people repented so for all who repent before His second coming, they are totally forgiven. | Nanao ohatra hamela heloka mialoha ny fiaiken-keloka ataon'ilay olona i Jesoa mba ho afa-keloka madio mangatsakatsaka ireo olona manatona azy miaiky ny helony mialoha ny hahatongavany fanindroany indray. |
51 | For those who insist on doing bad and refuse His forgiveness, they would pay for justice at final judgement. | Ho an'ireo mikiry manao rasy ary mandà ny famelana ny helony, hanefa ny fandoavan-ketra izy ireny amin'ny fitsarana farany. |
52 | Do not get it mixed up. | Aza afangaro ireo. |
53 | Clyde Xi: In Bible teachings, forgiveness is a personal decision that is made with no conditions attached. | Clyde Xi: Eo amin'ny fampianaran'ny Baiboly, fanapahan-kevitry ny tsirairay tsy misy fepetra miaraka aminy ny famelan-keloka. |
54 | It primarily impacts the person who forgives… | Mihatra voalohany amin'ilay olona mamela heloka izany… |