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1 | Global: Greek to English, Chinese to Russian, and Spanish to Macedonian This post is part of our special coverage Languages and the Internet. | Global: Teny Grika mankany amin'ny teny Anglisy, teny Sinoa mankany amin'ny teny Rosiana, ary teny Espaniola mankany amin'ny teny Masedoniana |
2 | We all have heard of funny situations when poor translation of idiomatic expressions from one language has produced ridiculous meaning in another. | Samy efa nandre ireo zava-mahatsikaiky mitranga isika rehefa lasa mampihomehy ny fandikana ireo fomba fitenin'ny teny iray avadika amin'ny teny hafa. |
3 | Translation of idioms is indeed one of the biggest challenges in translation, both for humans and for machines. | Ny fandikana ireo teny sarotra ireo dia anisan'ireo fifaninanana lehibe indrindra ao anatin'ny fandikan-teny, na ho an'ny olombelona izany na ho an'ireo solosaina. |
4 | The main difficulty lies in the linguistic character of idioms, whose meaning cannot be derived from the meaning of the constituent words. | Ny tena olana dia mitoetra eo amin'ny toetra/endrika ara-haintenin'izy ireny, ary tsy afaka avoaka avy amin'ny fitambaran'ireo teny mandrafitra azy ny dikany. |
5 | For example, the well worn out example of the English idiom to kick the bucket, literally meaning ‘to die,' has nothing to do with either kicking or with the bucket. | Ohatra, ny ohatra tontan'ny fiteny Anglisy ‘to kick the bucket,' ara-bakiteny midika hoe ‘maty' , dia tsy misy ifandraisany mihitsy amin'ny daka na amin'ny tavin-drano. |
6 | WikIdioms is a new online resource that aims at helping translators to cope with this challenge. | WikIdioms dia loharano ao amin'ny aterineto vaovao miezaka manampy ireo mpandika teny handresy izany olana izany. |
7 | We talked with the creator of the site, Pavel Kats, and with one of its contributors, Yasna Trandafilovska, so that they could explain the service on their own in the best manner. | Niresaka tamin'ny mpamorona ity vohikala ity, Pavel Kats, sy tamin'ny iray amin'ireo mpanampy azy,Yasna Trandafilovska, izahay ka dia afaka izy ireo noho izany nanazava ny fiasan'izany tamin'ny fomba raitra. |
8 | Q: Pavel, could you introduce Wikidioms in a couple of sentences? | Q: Pavel, afaka ampahafantarinao anay amin'ny alalan'ny fehezanteny fohifohy ve ny Wikidioms? |
9 | A: Well, basically the idea is to provide a web environment where people would help each other to cope with the translation of idioms, maybe one of the toughest challenges in translation. | A: Eny, ny hevitra fototra dia ny hanomezana tontolon'ny vohikala ahafahan'ny olona manampy ny hafa ho tafavoaka amin'ny fandikana ireo teny ireo, mety ho iray amin'ireo olana lehibe mikasika ny fandikan-teny. |
10 | Of course, when I say ‘translating an idiom,' I do not mean literal translation, rather an equivalent idiomatic expression in the target language, or any other means to convey the meaning. | Mazava ho azy, rehefa miteny aho hoe ‘mandika ny oha-pitenenana iray,' tsy midika izany hoe fandikana ara-bakiteny, fa fiteny mifandanja amin'ity teny nadika ity, na fomba hafa hahazoana ny dikanteny mitovy aminy. |
11 | The project is collaborative in its heart, therefore the web is an ideal place for it. | Ity tetikasa ity dia hiaraha-miasa, izay no nisafidianana ny vohikala ho toerana tsara anaovana izany. |
12 | Q: How is the community organized? | Q: Ahoana ny fandaminana ny fikambanana? |
13 | A: Most of the community members are professional translators who find some time in between their translation jobs to help us. | A: Maro amin'ireo mpikambana amin'ny fikambanana no mpandika teny matihanina izay manana fotoana malalaka tsy iasany ahafahany manampy anay. |
14 | These people are very well aware of the challenges of translating idiomatic expressions, as they do it themselves all the time. | Ireo olona ireo dia tena mahalala ireo olana amin'ny fandikana ireo oha-pitenenana, satria dia mahita izany foana izy ireo. |
15 | But we do not limit the contributors to translators, and we have also seen significant contributions from language enthusiasts unrelated to translation business. | Nefa tsy mametra ny ireo mpanampy ireo mpandray anjara ho amin'ny mpandika teny gotsiny izahay, ary dia nahita fandraisana anjara lehibe avy amin'ireo mpankafy ny fiteny izay tsy misy ifandraisany amin'ny asan'ny fandikan-teny. |
16 | See, many people love to cope with linguistic challenges when it is about their native languages. | Jereo, maro ireo olona te-handresy ireo olana eo amin'ny fiteny rehefa mikasika ny tenin-drazany izany.. |
17 | Q: Can you give us a bit of statistics? | Q: Afaka manome tahan'isa kely anay ve ianao? |
18 | How many contributors, in how many languages… | Firy ireo mpandray anjara, firy ny fiteny… |
19 | A: The actively contributing community counts more than 100 translators and growing. | A: Ny fitambaran'ny fandraisana anjara aloha amin'izao dia eo amin'ny mpandika teny 100 no mihoatra eo, ary mbola mitombo. |
20 | The project is rather young, but we are already proud to have more than 30 thousand expressions in more than 30 languages. | Mbola vao tanora kely ity tetikasa ity, nefa amin'izao dia afaka mirehareha ho efa namoaka fomba fiteny mihoatra ny 30.000 avy amin'ireo teny mihoatra ny 30. |
21 | And the sky is the limit… | Ary ny lanitra no fetra… |
22 | Q: Who can contribute to the site? | Q: Iza no afaka manampy ny vohikala? |
23 | A: Well, as I mentioned above we do not limit our contributors, so anyone can. | A: Araka ny voalazako tery ambony dia tsy voafetra ny isan'ny mpanampy, noho izany dia afaka manampy daholo ny rehetra. |
24 | Naturally, such a policy requires some level of moderation on the contributed content and this moderation is done by several members of our community. | Raha ny tokony ho izy, ny politika amin'ny toy izao dia mitaky fahaizana mandrindra ny zavatra ao anatin'ny fandraisana anjara ary ity fandrindràna ity dia ataon'ireo mpikambana maro ao amin'ny fikambananay. |
25 | We also invite professional translators who would like to help beyond sporadic contributions to contact us directly. | Manasa ireo mpandika teny matihanina te-hanampy mihoatra ireo noho ireo fandraisana anjara eny antsefantsefany eny ihany koa izahay mba hifandray mivantana aminay. |
26 | There is a number of specific projects, all connected to multilingual translation, that we are developing inside WikIdioms, and we are looking for partners. | Betsaka ny tetikasa manokana, mifandraika daholo amin'ny asa fandikana teny marolafy izay volavolainay ao anatin'ny WikIdioms, ary mitady mpanohana izahay. |
27 | Q: Why should we use the site? | Q:Inona no antony ampiasàna ny vohikala? |
28 | A: An example that fits here best. | A: Ohatra iray tena mety tsara ity. |
29 | Imagine you are translating a Global Voices article from English to other languages and the article contains an English expression ‘It's Greek to me!' in the sense that some text is completely obscure to the speaker. | Eritrereto hoe mandika lahatsoratry ny Global Voices amin'ny teny Anglisy mankany amina teny hafa ianao ary ahitana fomba fiteny iray ‘It's Greek to me!' izay ny tena heviny ao anatiny dia tsy mazava amin'ilay mpiteny ny hevitra sasany ao amin'ny lahatsoratra. |
30 | How would you convey the same meaning to other languages in the same picturesque way? | Ahoana no ahafahanao mahazo ny dika mitovy aminy amin'ireo teny hafa avy amin'ny hevitra sahala? |
31 | Now, with the help of WikIdioms you know that other languages also have their ways to express the same idea: Russians refer to Chinese and Macedonians….to Spaniards! | Amin'izao, miaraka amin'ny fanampian'ny WikIdioms dia fantatrao fa manana ny fombany ihany koa ireo teny hafa ireo hanehoana hevitra sahala: Ireo Rosiana mitaratra amin'ny Sinoa ary ireo Masedoniana….amin'ny Espaniola! |
32 | Thanks, Pavel! | Misaotra, Pavel! |
33 | Q: Yasna, how did you become involved in Wikidioms and why? | Q: Yasna, ahoana no nahatonga anao nirotsaka tao amin'ny Wikidioms ary ny antony? |
34 | A: My involvement with WikIdioms happened out of the blue when a Greek colleague and friend of mine sent me an e-mail with Pavel's call for translators to contribute to Wikidioms. | A: Ny firotsahako tao amin'ny WikIdioms dia nilatsaka avy tany an-danitra rehefa nandefa mailaka mikasika ny fitadiavan'i Pavel mpandika teny hanampy ny WikIdioms tamiko ny namako Grika iray. |
35 | Since I have been working as a translator for quite a while, I noticed that when it comes to the Macedonian language, it is quite difficult to find sources and dictionaries on the web that would help all the translators do their jobs quickly, properly and efficiently. | Efa nisinisy ihany izay no niasako ho mpandika teny, ary voamariko fa rehefa avy amin'ny teny Masedoniana, dia tena sarotra ny mahita ireo loharano sy diksionary ao amin'ny aterineto afaka manampy ireo mpandika teny rehetra hamita ny asany haingana, madio ary tsara. |
36 | So I realized that this is a great opportunity to change the situation. | Noho izany dia tonga saina aho fa tombontsoa lehibe entina hanovàna ny zava-misy izany. |
37 | But, because it is not possible for one person to know everything and because languages are living organisms that change and develop continuously, I would like to invite all my colleagues, and especially those of the Global Voices' Lingua teams throughout the world, to visit us and contribute. | Nefa, satria tsy ho vitan'olon-tokana ny mahafantatra ny zava-drehetra ary satria miaina ny teny rehetra ary miovaova sy mivoatra hatrany, dia manasa ireo namako rehetra aho, ary indrindra indrindra fa ireo ekipan'ny Global Voices Lingua maneran-tany, mba hitsidika anay ary hanampy anay. |
38 | Q: You are also a contributor for Global Voices in Macedonian, can you tell us how you found out about the project and what motivated you to join? | Q: Mpanampy ny Global Voices amin'ny teny Masedoniana ihany koa ianao, afaka milaza aminay ve ianao hoe ahoana no nahitanao ity tetikasa ity ary inona no nanosika anao hirotsaka tamin'izany? |
39 | A: I have been living in Greece for the last 11 years. | A: Nipetraka tany Grece aho efa 11 taona izao. |
40 | Because I am married to a Greek, at home we speak Greek. | Satria Grika ny vadiko, ao antrano izahay dia miteny Grika. |
41 | With time, I noticed that I started forgetting words of my mother tongue and that was very annoying. | Nandeha teny ny fotoana, tonga saina aho fa toa nanomboka adinoko ny tenin-drazako ary tena nahasorena izany. |
42 | I started searching for a solution and I found it in translating various texts on Global Voices. | Nanomboka nikaroka vahaolana aho ary nahita izany raha nandika lahatsoratra maromaro tao amin'ny Global Voices. |
43 | I think it is very stimulating because there are no deadlines, no stress, no rush and I think that when you do something just for the pleasure of it, the result is much, much better. | Mihevitra aho fa mamporsika izany satria tsy misy fe-potoana amin'izany, tsy misy rarin-tsaina, tsy misy hazakazaka ary mihevitra aho fa rehefa manao zavatra ianao noho ny fitiavanao izany fotsiny ihany, ny vokany dia tena tsara, tena tsara lavitra mihitsy. |
44 | Yasna Trandafilovska helped to compile this post. | Yasna Trandafilovska dia nanampy tamin'ny fanoratana ity lahatsoratra ity. |