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1Immigrants: Much More Than an Abstract NumberMpifindra-monina: Ambony Lavitra Noho Ny Isa
2This post is part of our series on Latin America: Migrant Journeys in collaboration with The North American Congress on Latin America (NACLA).Ity lahatsoratra ity, izay nivoaka ny 26 jolay tao amin'ny GV amin'ny teny anglisy, dia ao anatin'ny andiany mikasika an'i Amerika latina : Dian'ny mpifindra monina, miaraka amin'ny fandraisan'anjaran'ny kongresin'i amerika-andrefana mikasika an'i Amerika latina(NACLA).
3Stay tuned for more articles and podcasts.Betsaka ireo lahatsoratra sy ireo podcats mbola ho avy…
4This is the first part of an interview with Mexican journalist Eileen Truax.Indro ny tafatafa andiany voalohany nataonay tamin'i Eileen Truax, meksikana mpanao gazety .
5Mexican journalist and author of Huffington Post Voces Eileen Truax [es] recently released her book ‘Dreamers: The Fight of a Generation for its American Dream'.Vao haingana ilay meksikana mpanao gazety, Eileen Truax [espagnol], izay manoratra manokana hoan'ny pejy Voces ao amin'ny Huffington Post no namoaka boky mitondra ny lohateny hoe Dreamers: Ny adin'ny andian-taranaka iray mba hahazoany ny nofinofy amerikana.
6Migrant Journeys talked to Truax, who offered her insights on the immigration bill that the U.S. Senate recently passed, and explained why “the DREAMers” -more than 65,000 youth brought to the U.S. as children by their migrant parents, and who remain classified as “undocumented”-offer a perfect example of some of the contributions of immigrants to the United States.Nihaona taminy ny Migrant Journeys [angl] : mizara amintsika ireo fomba fijeriny mikasika ny drafitra fanavaozana ny fifindra-monina izay vao avy nankatoavin'ny Loholona amerikana izy ary manazava amintsika hoe nahoana ireo “DREAMers” [angl], izay ahitàna tanora maherin'ny 65 000, tonga mbola zaza tany Etazonia niaraka tamin'ireo ray amandreniny mpifindra-monina ary noraisin'ny fitondrana ho toy ireo “tsy manana taratasy ara-dalàna”, no manome endrika mazava tsara mikasika ireo vokatra miabo entin'ireo mpifindra-monina ho any Etazonia. Robert Valencia: Lazao anay ny mikasika ny bokinao Dreamers.
7Robert Valencia: Tells us more about your book Dreamers.Inona no antony nanosika anao hanoratra io boky io?
8What made you write this book?Loharanon-tsary: Editorial Océano
9Photo courtesy of Editorial OcéanoEileen Truax: Satria izaho koa mba mpifindra-monina.
10Eileen Truax: Because I'm an immigrant myself, I was born in Mexico City and have lived nine years in Los Angeles, where I worked for La Opinión, America's most influential newspaper in Spanish.Teraka tany Mexico aho ary efa sivy taona no monina any Los Angeles. Niasa tamin'ny La Opinión aho tany, ilay gazety amin'ny teny espaniôla be mpamaky indrindra any Etazonia.
11During my time at this newspaper I covered immigration issues, and I found compelling and moving stories, some of them related to successes, or very dramatic.Rehefa nanoratra ho azy zareo aho mikasika ireo olana mifamatotra amin'ny fifindra-monina, betsaka ny tantara mahaliana sy mampihetsi-po notantaraina tamiko, ny sasany miresaka fahalavorariana, ireo hafa sasany indray tena mahazandana marina mihitsy.
12In this process I learned of this pattern, especially the presence of children of immigrants, or the so-called DREAMers.Tahaka izany no nanombohako nitrandraka io lohahevitra io, indrindra fa ny fisian'ireo zanaky ny mpifindra-monina, ireo izay nomena anarana hoe DREAMers.
13In reality it wasn't the focus of attention for those covering the news, but the DREAMers were always there.Nandritra izany fotoana izany, tsy nahaliana mihintsy ireo media ny amin-dry zareo, nefa dia nisy foana izy ireo.
14I considered that it was necessary to take a second glimpse of particular stories from these youth who have features that set them apart from the rest of the immigrants.Hitako fa ilaina ny mihaino amin'ny antsipirihany ireo tantara mampiavaka ireo tanora ireo, samihafa amin'ny lafiny maro noho ireo mpifindra-monina sisa.
15I believe this is how we'll pave the way for a more humane immigration system.Amiko, io no fomba hanomanana fepetra manaja kokoa ny maha-olombelona mikasika ny fifindra-monina .
16They're Americans, save for a document.Amerikana izy ireo, saingy ny tsy ampy amin'izy ireo fotsiny dia ny taratasy fanamarinana izany.
17RV: Many times we hear the anti-immigrant rhetoric on the media.RV: Matetika ireo media dia fantsona mampita ny tsangan-kevitra manohitra ny fifindra-monina.
18Why do you think this is?Inona no anton'io araka ny hevitrao?
19ET: For too long, I thought it was a lack of sensitivity, but in recent years I have found that it's the lack of an approach to this problem.ET: Nandritra ny fotoana ela no niheverako izany ho noho ny tsy fahampian'ny fahatsapàna ara-pihetsem-po. Saingy vao haingana, nahita aho fa vokatry ny tsy fisian'ny fijerena azy izany.
20We tend to talk about immigration as a whole, like a generic thing that suddenly becomes abstract: 11 million people.Manana fahazarana foana ny olona hiresaka ny fifindra-monina amin'ny ankapobeny ho toy ny angona nalain-tàhaka ary nanjary lasa toa tsy azo tsapain-tànana tampoka teo: olona 11 tapitrisa.
21But what's the singularity about this?Saingy inona no mampiavaka io isa io?
22What's the human aspect of this?Inona no lafiny maha-olona azy?
23We can't give a soul to an abstract entity.Tsy azo omena fanahy ny vatana iray tsy azo tsapain-tanana akory.
24For this reason, we must tell the stories of at least one immigrant.Izay no antony hananantsika adidy hitantara farafaharatsiny ny tantaranà mpifindra-monina iray.
25Let's forget about the 11 million figure, let's talk about the person who arrived in the U.S. with no documents and no knowledge of English.Tsy maintsy adinoina io isa 11 tapitrisa io, saingy resahana kosa io olona io izay niditra tao Etazonia tsy nisy taratasy, tsy nahay niteny anglisy.
26How does he or she manage to survive the first day if that person doesn't know anybody, doesn't have a place to sleep nor has a work permit?Ahoana no fomba niainany tany amboalohany raha tsy nahalala olona izy, raha tsy nanana izay nasiana ny lohany sady tsy manana fahazoan-dalana miasa?
27If it's a family, how do their kids who don't speak English manage to go to school?Raha fianakaviana no resahana, ahoana no ataon'ireo ankizy, izay tsy miteny anglisy, raha mankany an-tsekoly?
28This way we can see a chain of stories and the challenges these people face, as well as the efforts to conquer the “little Everests” they face every day.Avy amin'izany no nahitàna ireo andianà tantara maro sy ireo fanamby izay tsy maintsy navoitran'ireo olona ireo ary koa ny ezak'izy ireo mba handinganana ny “petits Everests” isanandro.
29When a person can understand the immigrant drama, sensitivity flourishes.Ny fanomezana fahafahana ireo olona mba hahatsapa ny loza iainan'ireo mpifindra-monina, dia fanomezan-toky ny fientanam-pony ho afaka hiteny.
30Lest we forget we are talking about human beings who, in the end, are the beneficiaries of an immigration reform.Izany dia mba tsy hanadinoina amin'ny farany fa olombolona ireo resahana ireo, olona izay hahazo tombontsoa amin'ny fanavaozana ny fifindra-monina.
31RV: Janet Napolitano stepped down as Secretary of Homeland Security.RV: Niala tamin'ny asa maha-sekreteran'ny Fiarovana Anatiny i Janet Napolitano.
32During her tenure we saw important measures for the DREAMers such as deferred action, a two-year program that allows them to be eligible for work authorization.Nandritra ny fotoam-piasàny, fepetra maro mavesa-danja manome tombony ny DREAMers no noraisina, toy ny fampiatoana ireo fandroahana mandritra ny roa taona azo havaozina, vokatr'io dia afaka maka fahazoan-dalana miasa izy ireo.
33How does her resignation affect the pro-immigrant movement?Hatraiza ny ho fiantraikan'ny fialany amin'nyhetsika atao hanohanana ireo mpifindra-monina?
34ET: We must consider two things.ET: Misy teboka roa ilaina jerena.
35The first is that the level of impact will depend on who replaces Napolitano, and what continuity will be given to the Administration's policies or whether we'll see a change of direction.Voalohany indrindra, ny lanjan'io fanovàna io dia hiankina amin'izay hisolo an'i Janet Napolitano sy ny fitohizany - na ny fanovàna ny tanjona - izay hapetraka amin'ny politikan'ity fitantanana ity.
36It will also depend on the vision the team will have.Hiankina ihany koa amin'ireo fomba fijeren'ny tarika vaovao.
37My second observation is that, though Napolitano was very vocal in several themes, we witnessed the largest number of deportations in America's recent history, that is, 400,000 deportations per year is no small number. We're talking about hits or misses in this administration.Ny fanamarihako faharoa dia mikasika ny isan'ireo naterina teny amin'ny sisintany: na dia vitan'i Janet Napolitano aza ny nanao izay hihainoana azy tamin'ny lohahevitra sasantsany, hitantsika tato anatin'ny taona maro faramparany teo ny fisian'ireo fepetra maro miaro fisintahana teo amin'ny tantaran'i Etazonia ary tsy azo lazaina ho isa azo tsinontsinoavina ireo olona miisa 400 000 isan-taona naterina teny an-tsisintany.
38President Barack Obama has sided with the DREAMer movement and with the immigrant movement in general, but he's the chief of this administration that has conducted these massive deportations.Manana toetra miovaova ny governemanta. Nandray andraikitra ho fiarovana ireo DREAMers sy ny hetsik'ireo mpifindra-monina amin'ny ankapobeny i Barack Obama, saingy etsy andaniny anefa dia mpitarika rafitra iray izay nandrindra ireny fandroahana goavana ireny izy.
39We have to wait and see who will take over and whether we'll see a change of direction in current policies.Tsy maintsy andrasana araka izany ny hoe iza no handray ny toerana ary koa raha toa hitondra ho amin'ny fanovàna miohatra amin'ireo politika ankehitriny izany.
40RV: Ann Coulter, a prominent figure of the U.S. conservative movement, said that by legalizing 11 million people the future of the Republican Party will be jeopardized, implying that the beneficiaries will vote in favor of Democrats as a sign of gratitude for passing the bill.RV: Ann Coulter, endrika fahita amin'ny fampahalalam-baovao, avy amin'ny hetsika amerikana mpandàla ny nentin-drazana, dia nanambara fa loza mitatao ho an'ny hoavin'ny antoko repoblikana ny fanomezana taratasy an'ireo olona 11 tapitrisa, mitarika koa ireo izay mahazo tombontsoa amin'izany hanome ny vatony ho an'ny demokraty mba ho mariky ny fisaorana, noho ny nandaniana ilay lalàna.
41Do you think it's prudent to pigeonhole a Latino community who clearly is not monolithic in their political preferences?Mino ve ianareo fa fahamalinana ny hanasokajy ny vondrom-piarahamonina latino tahaka izany nefa izy aza tsy mbola voavondrona ho vondrona iray akory raha resaka fironana politika?
42What do you think about this?Ahoana no hevitrao momba izany?
43Eileen Truax, photo courtesy of René MirandaEileen Truax, sary an'i REné Miranda
44ET: It's perverse to talk about an immigration reform while fixing attention to the political parties.ET: Tsy azo afantoka amin'ireo antoko politika ny fijery raha toa ka hiresaka fanovàna mikasika ny fifindra-monina.
45What we need to understand is the need of a fair immigration reform seen from the human rights and criminal justice perspective, not just as partisan booty or capital gain for a particular party.Izay tsy maintsy mazava ao antsaina dia ny filàna fanavaozana ny fifindra-monina izay marina, araka ny fomba fijery mandray ho anaty kajikajy ny zon'olombelona sy ny lalàna famaizana, ary tsy fitondrana azy ho toy ny entana babon'ny antoko na fandresena lehibe ho an'ny antoko iray manokana.
46If we don't change our perspective we can't do justice.Tsy afaka ny ho marina isika raha tsy manova ny fijerintsika.
47The theme of immigration must be based on respect toward human rights.Ny lohahevitry ny fifindra-monina dia tsy maintsy manana ny fanajana ireo zon'olombelona ho toy ny fototra.
48If we use these 11 million people as political prize we're not doing the right thing as a country or as society, and lawmakers are not being compliant with their duties.Raha ampiasaina ho toy ny valisoa politika ireo olona miisa 11 tapitrisa ireo, misy zavatra tsy mandeha amin'ny laoniny eto amin'ny firenentsika, eto amin'ny fiaraha-monintsika, ary tsy mahafeno araka ny tokoy ho izy ny andraikiny ireo izay manao ny lalàna.
49Immigration reform must seek to give political certainty to 11 million people who are already here and who contribute to our society, and we as a society must protect those who live in it.Tokony hanana tanjona hanome karazana fiarovana ara-politika ho an'ireo mpifindra-monina 11 tapitrisa izay efa eo ary anisan'ny mpiara-monina amintsika ilay fanavaozana ny fifindra-monina; sady, amin'ny maha-fiaraha-monina azy, manana andraikitra ny hiaro ny mpikambana ao anatiny isika.
50Comments like this steer away the reform's objective.Ny fanehoankevitra tahaka ireny no mampihataka antsika hanalavitra ny tanjon'ny fanavaozana.
51Besides, this concern is premature and opportunistic because it will take 13 years for a person, once the bill is approved, to become a citizen.Fanampin'izany, fanahiana lasa aloha loatra sy fanararaotana io : vantany vao ekena ny lalàna, mila 13 taona ny olona iray voakasika vao afaka mahazo ny maha teratany azy.
52RV: We have seen opposition of this bill in the House of Representatives at the helm of Rep. John Boehner (R-OH).RV: Nahatazanana karazana fanoherana an'io fanavaoazana io tao anivon'ny Tranoben'ireo Solontena, tarihan'i John Boehner (Ohio), repoblikana.
53Can we talk about optimism given the possibility that the reform will die down on the House floor?Afaka ny hanantena vokatra tsara ve nefa mety ho hatelin'ity rantsana ity ilay fanavaozana?
54ET: At this very moment we can't have any certitude, not even the very same congressmen know exactly what the perspectives are with respect to the advancement of the bill in the next couple of months.ET: Amin'izao fotoana izao aloha tsy mbola misy tena azo antoka: na dia ireo mpikambana ao amin'ny Kongresy aza dia tsy mahalala marina izay hiandry ilay fanavaozana sy ny fomba hivoarany ato anatin'ny volana vitsy ho avy.
55I believe it will be after the August recess that some positions toward this bill will be defined when legislators go back to their respective localities.Mieritreritra aho fa aorian'ny fialantsasatry ny parlemanta ny volana Aogositra dia ho fantatra mazava ny toerana misy ny tsirairay, rehefa miverina any amin'ireo faritra iandraiketany avy ireo mpanao lalàna.
56I hope these communities remind legislators the reason they've been put in Capitol Hill and that we have the right to tell them the position they must adopt regarding this matter.Manantena aho fa, etsy andaniny, hampahatsiahivin'ireo mpifidy azy ireny ny antony hisoloan'izy ireo tena azy ao amin'ny Capitole, ary etsy ankilany kosa, ny zon'izy ireo hamaritra ny toerana raisiny manoloana ilay olana.
57I would not talk about optimism because the perspective is vague.Laviko ny hiresahana fiandrandràna vokatra tsara satria tsy mazava ireo fomba fijery.
58What I do believe, however, is that we're at a juncture where everybody has to do something.Kanefa, mino aho fa eo aminà kihondalana iray isika ka samy manana ny andraikiny ny rehetra.
59Despite the things we don't like about this reform and its peculiarities, the fact that we have an immigration reform bill is an opportunity nobody should miss.Na eo aza ireo teboka mikasika ity fanavaozana ity, izay tsy tiantsika sy ireo toetrany manokana, ny fanànana tetkasa iray miresaka fanovana ny fifindra-monina aloha dia efa vintana iray tsy azon'ny tsiraira lalovam-potsiny.
60It's the duty of activists and organizations to close ranks and become one front, while it's the duty of journalists to seek different angles of the story, reminding congressmen and society that this goes beyond the militarization at the border.Ireo mpikatroka sy ireo fikambanana dia manana adidy hivondrona ho mandatehezana iray mitambatra, raha tsy maintsy hijery ireo lafy madinika samihafa mikasika ilay raharaha kosa ireo mpanao gazety, mba hampatsiahivana ireo mpanao politika sy ny fiaraha-monina hoe tsy resaka fiarovana ara-miaramila ny sisintany fotsiny io.
61Let's not forget who in reality will benefit and the characteristics of each group: There are sections of the bill that talk about farmers, another one talks about the DREAMers, etc., and we perhaps may forget to tell these stories.Aza adinointsika ireo izay hahazo tombontsoa amin'izany ary ireo toetra mampiavaka ireo vondrona samihafa ireo: ny sasantsasany amin'ilay lalàna dia miompana amin'ireo mpamboly, ny sasany amin'ireo DREAMers, sy ny sisa, ary mitoetra ny mety hanadinoana ireo tranga ireo.
62There are many particular things in the 1000-page-long bill, so we can't focus the immigration debate just on border security.Misy ireo teboka manokana ao anatin'io drafitra mihoatra ny 1.000 pejy io, tsy azo aompana manokana amin'ny fiarovana ny sisintany fotsiny araka izany ny adihevitra.