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1Russian Opposition Leaders Support Ukraine, But Crimea Is Not Coming BackManohana An'i Okraina Ireo Rosiana Lehiben'ny Mpanohitra, Fa Tsy Hiverina Kosa Anefa i Krimea
2Russian opposition leaders Khodorkovsky and Navalny speak out on Crimea.Mamoaka ny heviny mikasika an'i Krimea ireo filohan'ny mpanohitra Khodorkovsky sy i Navalny.
3Images mixed by Tetyana Lokot.Sary natambatr'i Tetyana Lokot.
4Russia's leading opposition figures have a message for Ukrainians: Crimea is gone, and Ukraine is not getting it back.Manana hafatra ho an'ny Okrainiana ireo olona fanta-daza mpitarika ny fanoherana ao Rosia: Lasa i Krimea, ary tsy ho voaverin'i Okraina intsony izy.
5Currently under house arrest for dubious embezzlement charges, Putin's harshest critic and anti-corruption advocate Alexey Navalny outlined his views on Crimea, the war in Ukraine, and other Russian issues in a controversial interview on October 15 to Alexey Venediktov, chief editor of Ekho Moskvy (Echo of Moscow).Ankehitriny tazonina any amin'ny toerana tsara ambina, noho ny fiampangana mampiahiahy ho nanaovany fanodikodinam-bola i Alexey Navalny, ilay mpitsikera fatratra an'i Poutine ary mpisolovava miady amin'ny kolikoly namoaka ny heviny mikasika an'i Krimea, ny ady any Okraina, ary ireo tranga hafa Rosiana, taminà tafatafa nahatonga resabe ny 15 Oktobra niaraka tamin'i Alexey Venediktov, tonian'ny famoahana ao amin'ny Ekho Moskvy (Akon'i Moscow).
6Despite his criticism of Russia's sponsorship of the war in Ukraine, Navalny's comments on Crimea came as a surprise to many.Na teo aza ny tsikerany amin'ny fiahian'i Rosia ny ady any Okraina, toa tampoka ho an'ny maro ny fanehoan-kevitra momba an'i Krimea nataon'i Navalny.
7I believe that despite how Crimea was seized in a flagrant violation of all international norms, the reality nonetheless is that Crimea is now part of the Russian Federation.Mieritreritra aho, fa na dia tratra taminà fanitsakitsahana mibaribary ireo fenitra maneran-tany tokony arahana aza i Krimea, ny zava-misy tsy azo lavina dia anisan'ny Federasiôna Rosiana i Krimea ankehitriny.
8And let's not fool ourselves.Tsy tokony hifamitaka isika.
9And I strongly advise the Ukrainians to also not fool themselves.Ary manipy hevitra ireo Okraniana tsy hifamitaka ihany koa aho.
10It is going to remain part of Russia and will never become part of Ukraine in the foreseeable future.Efa lasa anisan'i Rosia io ary tsy ho tonga anisan'i Okraina intsony aloha ato ho ato.
11Venediktov went on to ask Navalny what he would do as president of Russia: would he return Crimea to Ukraine, or retain Russia's newest addition?Nanontan' i Venediktov an'i Navalny ny zavatra mety nataony raha izy no filohan'i Rosia : hamerina an'i Krimea ho an'i Okraina ve izy, sa hitazona ilay fanampiny vaovao ao amin'i Rosia?
12Navalny partially dodged the question, asking if Crimea is a piece of meat “that you pass back and forth,” but eventually said he considers the loss of Crimea as beneficial for Ukraine.Niezaka niala amin'ny ampahany tamin'ilay fanontaniana i Navalny, nanontany hoe bolongan-kena angaha i Krimea “ka azonao atolotra dia alaina avy eo,” saingy namaly ihany izy nony farany fa hitany ho zavatra tsara ho an'i Okraina ny namoizany an'i Krimea.
13I think that, in fact, this is a plus for Ukraine, despite the resentment and other things that they are feeling.Mieritreritra aho, fa tombony ho an'i Okraina izany, raha amin'ny zava-misy, na dia eo aza ny alahelo sy ny zavatra hafa tsapany.
14It is a great joy that Crimea has left Ukraine, with its completely pro-Russian demographics and conservative-leaning population that will have no part in their anti-corruption revolution and have no desire to join Europe.Hafaliana lehibe ny nialàn'i Krimea tamin'i Okraina, amin'ny fiandaniany tanteraka amin'ny faritra Rosiana ary ny vahoakany mitazona hatrany ny fomba fanaony, izay tsy hanana anjara amin'ny fitakiany fanovàna, ny ady amin'ny kolikoly izay ataony, ary ny tsy fananany finiavana ny hanjohy an'i Eorôpa mihitsy.
15They have lost 2 million voters who have hindered this movement.Very mpifidy 2 tapitrisa mety nanohintohina io hetsika ataony io izy ireo.
16Therefore this is, on one hand, a winning situation.Tranga nahazoana tombony izany io amin'ny lafiny iray.
17Politically, this will bother us, Ukraine, and Europe for a long time.Amin'ny lafiny Politika, fanelingelenana ho an'ny ankolafy roa, Okraina sy Eorôpa mandritry ny fotoana maharitra io.
18Navalny has never been a flawless figure for the liberal opposition in Russia with his unapologetic nationalism and anti-immigrant rhetoric.Tsy olona tonga lafatra i Navalny hatrizay, ho an'ny fanoherany malalaka tao Rosia, amin'ny fanompoan-tanindrazany tsy misy fihafahafana, ary ny kabary tsara lahatra tsy mankasitraka ny hifindran'ireo vahiny any amin'ny taniny.
19However, his acceptance of Putin's grab of Crimea was too much for many Russian liberals and Ukrainians.Kanefa, tafahoatra loatra ho an'ireo Rosiana liberaly sy Okraniana maro, ny fanekeny ny nakàn'i Poutine an'i Krimea.
20Crimea is Ukraine!Okraina i Krimea!
21#FU Navalny#FU Navalny
22Ekho Moskvy's radio interview with Navalny almost didn't make the airwaves: chief editor Venediktov got a phone call from Gazprom-Media's Chairman Mikhail Lesin, who demanded the interview not be broadcast, and threatened “problems” for the radio station (Gazprom-Media owns Ekho Moskvy-GV.)Saika tsy tafita tamin'ny olona ny tafatafa tamin'ny radio Ekho Moskvy niarahana tamin'i Navalny: naharay antso an-tariby avy tamin'ny Talen'ny Gazprom-Media, Mikhail Lesin, mantsy i Venediktov, tonian'ny famoahana; izay nangataka ny tsy andefasana ilay tafatafa amin'ny radio, ary norahonana “hahita olana” ny radio-ny (an'ny Gazprom-Media mantsy ny Ekho Moskvy-GV).
23This seemingly blatant attempt at censorship did not work, as Venediktov ignored the threats and put Navalny's interview on air anyway.Toa tsy nandaitra anefa io andrana mibaribary ho fanivanana io, satria tsy noraharahian'i Venediktov ireo fandrahonana, ary nandefa ny tafatafa niaraka tamin'i Navalny ihany izy na ahoana na ahoana.
24After the drama around Navalny's interview, another key opposition figure came out against returning Crimea to Ukraine: Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the former oligarch and Putin's nemesis who spent eight years in labor camps before receiving a pardon in December 2013.Taorian'ilay olana be nisy nanodidina ilay tafatafa niaraka tamin'i Navalny, olona iray hafa fanta-daza ao amin'ny mpanohitra indray no nivoaka avy any, nilaza ny tsy fankasitrahany ny hamerenana an'i Krimea ho an'i Okraina: i Mikhail Khodorkovsky, tompon'ny harena sy fahefana teo aloha ary fahavalo be an'i Poutine, izay nandany valo taona tany amin'ny asa an-terivozona, talohan'ny nahazoany famindram-po ny volana Desambra 2013.
25Khodorkovsky said on Twitter he had read Navalny's interview and essentially agreed with him on Crimea:Nilaza tamin'ny Twitter i Khodorkovsky fa namaky ny tafatafan'i Navalny izy, ary miray hevitra aminy amin'ny ankapobeny amin'ny resaka Krimea:
26I have read Alexey's [Venediktov] interview with Alexey [Navalny].Namaky ny tafatafan'i Alexey [Venediktov] niaraka tamin'i Alexey [Navalny] aho.
27We are allies on the main things that matter.Mpiray hevitra izahay amin'ireo tena zava-dehibe .
28We'll negotiate the details.Afaka mifanaraka amin'ny pitsopitsony izahay..
29@psykrab: You are not going to escape the question.@psykrab: Tsy ho afa-miala amin'ilay fanontaniana ianao.
30Would you return Crimea if you became president?Haverinao ve i Krimea raha lasa filoha ianao?
31Khodorkovsky: I will give you a straight answer: I would not.Khodorkovsky: Homeko valiny mazava ianao: Tsy hamerina aho.
32The Crimea problem will go on for decades.Hitohy mandritra ny am-polo taonany ny olan'i Krimea.
33The path lies through the blurring of boundaries in Europe, through municipalization.Mandalo amin'ny fanakorontanana ny sisintany any Eorôpa ny làlana, amin'ny alàlan'ny fametrahana ny fizaram-paritra.
34I will not live long enough to see it.Tsy haharitra ho velona ela eto aho mba hahita izany.
35Popular Ukrainian journalist Vitaly Portnikov wrote a Facebook post criticizing Navalny and Khodorkovsky that generated over a thousand comments:Nanoratra lahatsoratra tamin'ny Facebook ilay mpanao gazety malaza Okraniana, Vitaly Portnikov, nitsikera an'i Navalny sy i Khodorkovsky, izay nahatonga fanehoan-kevitra mihoatra ny an'arivony:
36And we will never see the likes of Khodorkovsky-and Navalny as well-in our country again.Ary tsy hahita ny tian'i Khodorkovsky sy i Navalny velively isika, na amin'ny firenentsika aza.
37It is better that they portray democrats at “Russian Marches,” in Swiss restaurants, and even in the Kremlin, where they are unlikely to be distinguished from Vladimir Putin' current accomplices.Tsara kokoa raha misolo tena ny demôkraty eny amin'ireo “Làlana Rosiana” izy ireo, any amin'ireo toeram-pisakafoana Soisa, ary na dia eny amin'i Kremlin aza, izay tsy ahitàna azy hiavaka amin'ireo mpiray tsikombakomba amin'i Vladimir Poutine ankehitriny.
38Khodorkovsky personally replied to Portnikov's message and to the hundreds of Ukrainian users who left angry comments, explaining his stance on the political realities in Crimea.Namaly manokana ny hafatr'i Portnikov i Khodorkovsky, ary ho an'ireo Okraniana an-jatony mpampiasa ny Aterineto, izay nandefa fanehoan-kevitra tezitra mafy, nanazava ny heviny mikasika ny tena zava-misy ara-politika marina any Krimea.
39Only a dictator will be able to return Crimea to Ukraine in the coming decades.Olona mpanao jadona ihany no afaka hamerina an'i Krimea amin'i Okraina ato anatin'ny folo taona manaraka.
40Not a single law will work without power, and if a president uses power to force a society to do what a society categorically does not support-he is a dictator.Tsy hiasa mihitsy ny lalàna iray raha tsy misy fahefàna, ary raha mampiasa fahefana ny filoha iray mba hanerena ny fiarahamonina iray, hanao zavatra izay tena tsy hankasitrahan'io fiarahamonina io mihitsy, mpanao jadona izy amin'izay.
41Anti-Kremlin Russians and, to a greater degree, Ukrainians have grown frustrated over Navalny's and Khodorkovsky's stance on Crimea, calling them traitors and vatniks (a derogatory term for fervently patriotic Russians).Niha-nitombo hasosorana ireo Rosiana mpanohitra ny ao Kremlin, ary raha amin'ny ambaratonga ambonimbony kokoa, ireo Okraniana, tamin'ny hevitr'i Navalny sy Khodorkovsky momba an'i Krimea, nanao azy ireo ho mpamadika sy “vatniks” (fomba fiantsoana ireo Rosiana tia tanindrazana be loatra).
42However, as this episode demonstrates, the current anti-Kremlin opposition is far from a united front.Na izany aza, araka ny hita amin'io zavatra mitranga io, fa mbola lavitra ny fitoviam-pijery ireo mpanohitra tsy mankasitraka an'i Kremlin ankehitriny.
43While Navalny does oppose Russian aggression in Ukraine, he also believes that the problem of illegal immigration in Russia is a “hundred times more important than any Ukraine.”Raha manohitra ny herisetra Rosiana any Okraina i Navalny, mino ihany koa anefa izy fa “mbola zava-dehibe an-jatony lavitra mihoatra ny Okraina” ny olan'ny fifindramonina tsy ara-dalàna any Rosia.
44Khodorkovsky has said that he sees himself as a leader of the Russian opposition movement, but this movement has significantly weakened since its peak in 2011-13, when a patchwork movement of nationalists, liberals, communists, and students protested corruption and election fraud.Khodorkovsky indray nilaza fa mahita ny tenany ho lehiben'ny hetsiky ny Rosiana mpanohitra izy, fa niha-maivana tanteraka io hetsika io hatry ny nahatratrarany ny faratampony, ny taona 2011-13, rehefa nanao hetsi-panoherana nitambatra ireo mpanompo tanindrazana, ireo liberaly, ireo kaominista, ary ireo mpianatra, nanohitra ny kolikoly sy ny hala-bato tamin'ny fifidianana.
45With Putin's approval ratings hovering above 80% after the wildly popular annexation of Crimea, the Russian opposition is likely aware that it won't do itself any favors by rallying against the single greatest source of Russian national pride today.Miaraka amin'ny fankatoavana an'i Poutine izay mananontanona ny 80% taorian'ny fanambàrana nalaza be an'i Krimea , toa tsapan'reo Rosiana mpanohitra fa tsy hanome vahana azy mihitsy ny manao hetsika manohitra ny loharano tokana lehibe miteraka ny reharehan'ny firenena Rosiana ankehitriny.