# | eng | mlg |
---|
1 | Tunisian Political Cartoonist _Z_: ‘Nothing Has Really Changed’ | Mpanao Sariitatra Politika Toniziana _Z_: ‘Tsy Nisy Zavatra Tena Niova’ |
2 | This post is part of our special coverage Tunisia Revolution 2011. Tunisian anonymous political cartoonist ‘_Z_' has been using his blog debatunisie.com to express himself since 2007. | Nampiasa ny bilaoginy manokana debatunisie.com hanambarany ny heviny hatramin'ny 2007 ny mpanao sariitatra politika tsy fantatra anarana ‘_Z_'. |
3 | His caricatures which did not please former autocratic ruler Zeine el-Abidin Ben Ali, do not seem to please Tunisia's Islamists either. | Hita ho tsy mahafaly ny Islamista ao Tonizia ihany koa ny sariritatra tsy nahafaly ny mpitondra ‘samirery' teo aloha Zeine el-Abidin Ben Ali. |
4 | _Z_ says that there are only two red lines he never crosses: “libel, and racism.” | Niteny i _Z_ fa roa ihany ny tsipika mena tsy hihoarany mihitsy: “Fiampangana lainga sy fanavakavaham-bolonkoditra.” |
5 | For him, religion should not be a taboo, and this is what provoked some Internet users who reported his Facebook page over caricatures which they deemed insulting to Islam. | Ho azy tsy tokony ho zavatra tsy azo resahina (kianina) ny fivavahana, ary zany no nahatonga ny mpisera aterineto sasany ‘nitory' ny pejiny Facebook amin'ireo sariitatra isan-karazany heverin-dry zareo ho manompa ny Islam. |
6 | On August 7, 2011, _Z_ wrote: | Tamin'ny 7 aogositra 2011 i _Z_ no nanoratra: |
7 | In response to their complaints, Zuckerberg's robots have prohibited me from publishing on my Facebook profile for 30 days (…) The war against “good morals”, religious morality, and bigotry shall be absolute. | Ho setrin'ny fanoheran-dry zareo dia nandrara ahy tsy hamoaka na inona na inona mandritra ny 30 andro eo amin'ny rindriko ny raboton'i Zuckerberg (…) Tsy maintsy tsy azo ivalozana ny ady amin'ny “fomba tsara”, ny maoralim-pivavahana ary ny fanaovana toka-maso. |
8 | For me, it is obvious that I will soon turn into an outlaw once the assembly (in charge of drafting a new constitution) passes the anti-blasphemy law | Ho ahy moa, miharihary fa ho jiolahy aho vantany eken'ny antenimieram-panorenana ny lalàna momba ny fitenenan-dratsy ny zava-masina |
9 | I interviewed _Z_ via e-mail about his caricatures, anonymity, religion and freedom of expression in Tunisia. | Nitafatafa tamiin'i _Z_ tamin'ny alalan'ny imailaka momba ny sariitatra, ny tsy fitononona ny anarany, ny fivavahana ary ny fahafaha-miteny ao Tonizia aho. |
10 | Global Voices (GV): When and why did you decide to use the blogosphere to publish your cartoons? | Global Voices (GV): Oviana ary nahoana ianao no nanapa-kevitra ny hampiasa ny tontolom-bilaogy hamoahanao ny sariitatrao? |
11 | _Z_: I launched my blog on 28 August, 2007. | _Z_: Nanangana ny bolongako aho tamin'ny 28 Aogositra 2007. |
12 | Since the beginning, it was obvious to me that my target would be the regime of Ben Ali. | Efa nivandravandra tamiko hatramin'ny voalohany fa ny kendreko dia ny fitondran'i Ben Ali. |
13 | First, I only wrote texts. | Tamin'ny voalohany aho lahatsoratra fotsiny no navoakako. |
14 | Then, I had the idea of accompanying my writings with drawings. | Avy eo aho nanan-kevitra ny hampiaraka ny soratro tamin'ny sarisary. |
15 | This had earned my blog uniqueness, and attracted larger audience. | Izay no nampanivaka ny bolongako ary nahazoana mpamaky betsaka. |
16 | Even though, the adage “a picture is better that a long speech” remains true, it was important for me to emphasize writing because my action, in the first place, was political and intellectual, something the caricature on its own cannot assure. | Na dia marina aza ny fomba fiteny hoe “mahalaza maro noho ny kabary lava ny sary”, dia zava-dehibe amiko ny manasongadina ny soratra noho ny asam-pikatrohako, manome toerana voalohany ny ara-politika sy ny ara-pisainana, zavatra tsy voalaza tsara ao amin'ny sariitatra. |
17 | GV: You are known under the pseudonym _Z_. | GV: Fantatra amin'ny solon'anarana _Z_ ianao. |
18 | Almost 19 months after the fall of the Ben Ali regime, you still prefer to conceal your identity. | Efa ho 19 volana aty aorian'ny nihonganan'ny fitondrana Ben Ali, mbola manafin'endrika hatrany ianao. |
19 | Why is that? | Nahoana? |
20 | _Z_: My position toward the former Ben Ali regime necessitated utmost vigilance from my part regarding my identity. | _Z_: Tsy maintsy nitandrina dia nitandrina indrindra aho amin'ny famoahana ny anarako noho ny toerana misy ahy manoloana ny fitondran'i Ben Ali. |
21 | I definitely had to protect myself to avoid any retaliation. | Tsy maintsy niaro ny tenako tanteraka aho mba tsy ho tratran'ny famaizana. |
22 | Dictatorship fell 19 months ago, and so far not a single serious investigation into the policing of the web [during the Ben Ali regime] was conducted. | Nianjera ny jadona 19 volana lasa izay, fa tsy mbola nisy famotorana matotra momba ny fanaraha-maso ny tranonkala [nandritra ny fitondran'i Ben Ali]. |
23 | This machine, we called Ammar 404, and which was used to spread horror on the Tunisian net (censorship, arrests, threats…), could still be in place today waiting for a reactivation signal. | Io fitaovana, natsoinay hoe Ammar 404, io izay nampiasaina ampihorohoroana ny aterineto Toniziana(sivana, fisamborana, fandrahonana…), dia mbola mety hiasa indray amin'ity mason'andro anio ity raha misy ny baiko ho amin'izany. |
24 | So, for me nothing has really changed despite appearances and this is why I still keep my anonymity. | Noho izany, tsy nisy loatra ny zava-niova na dia eo aza ny seho ivelany ary izany ny antony mbola hanafenako anarana. |
25 | “The Tunisia National Theater presents (for the fifth time) the electoral comedy”. | “Ny teatra nasionaly manolotra anao (fanindiminy izao) ny tantara mampihomehin'ny fifidianana”. |
26 | Cartoon published on the occasion of the 2009 Tunisia presidential and legislative elections | Sariitatra navoaka nandritra ny fifidianana filoha sy depiote tamin'ny 2009 |
27 | GV: No one ever dared to mock Ben Ali and ridicule his regime the way you did. | GV: Tsy nisy nahasahy nanesoeso an'i Ben Ali sy ny fitondrany tahaka ny nataonao. |
28 | The former regime did not succeed in revealing your real identity. | Tsy nahavita nahalala ny momba anao izy. |
29 | How did you manage to protect your anonymity? | Ahoana ny fomba nataonao tsy nahfantarana ny momba anao? |
30 | Any tips to share with online cyber-dissidents wishing to hide their identities? | Misy toro-hevitra azonao omena ireo mpanohitra an-tserasera te-hanafina ny momba azy ve? |
31 | _Z_: In order to protect themselves, they simply have to separate their dissident lives from their daily lives. | _Z_: Mba hiarovan-dry zareo ny tenany, dia manavaka ny fiainany amin'ny maha-mpanohitra azy sy ny fiainany andavanandro izy ireo. |
32 | Using different e-mails and proxies. | Mampiasa imailaka samihafa sy proxies samihafa. |
33 | But most important, maintaining utmost discretion and avoid talking about it even to the closest circles. | Fa ny tena zava-dehibe, tsy milaza na inona na inona mihitsy ary miresaka izay nosoratana eny fa na dia amin'ny namana tena akaiky indrindra aza. |
34 | Abrogation often permitted the arrest of cyber dissidents and this was the case for Zouhaier Yahyaoui. | Ny fialana amin'izany na dia kely aza no ahafahana misambotra ireo mpanohitra an-tserasera ary izany no nahazo an'i Zouhaier Yahyaoui. |
35 | [Tunisia's first cyber-dissident to be condemned and jailed] | [mpanohitra an-tserasera toniziana voalohany voaheloka sy nigadra] |
36 | GV: For you there are no red lines. | GV: Tsy misy ny tsipika mena ho anao. |
37 | With the Islamists' rise to power, you have started not only criticizing them, but also drawing Islamic religious symbols (God, prophets…). | Rehefa tafakatra eo amin'ny fitondrana ny Islamista dia tsy vitan'ny nitsikera azy ireo ianao fa nanomboka nanao sary ny mari-pamantarana islamika ihany koa (Andriamanitra, mpaminany…). |
38 | This has provoked Islamists who reported your Facebook page Debatunisie. | Izay no nanery ny Islamista hitsipaka ny pejy facebook-nao Debatunisie. |
39 | Could provocation help break taboos? | Mety hamohana ny fady ve ny fihantsiana? |
40 | _Z_: I only consider libel, and racist insults as red lines. | _Z_: Ny fanasoketana, ny fanompana manavakava-bolonkoditra ihany no heveriko ho tsipika mena. |
41 | Otherwise, there is nothing that can justify any kind of censorship. | Ankoatra izay tsy misy zavatra tokony hamarinina hosivanina. |
42 | Even though I'm aware that I do hurt the feelings of some, I believe that we have to elevate the supremacy of freedom above religious sacredness (even if it represents the majority) and accept the famous adage that says “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. | Na dia fantatro aza fa mety mandratra ny fihetseham-pon'ny sasany aza, mino aho fa tsy maintsy asandratra ambonin'ny fahamasinam-pivavahana (eny fa na dia ao amin'izany aza ny maro an'isa) ny fahafahana ka manaiky ilay fomba fiteny malaza manao hoe “Tsy ekeko ny zavatra lazainao, saingy arovako mihatra aman'aina kosa fa manan-jò hiteny izany ianao”. |
43 | For me, democracy is not complying with the dominant thought (which leads to the dictatorship of the majority), but rather the ability to express publicly any idea, be it pertaining to a minority or disturbing, as long as it is neither defamatory nor racist. | Ho ahy ny demokrasia tsy voatery hanaraka izay hevitra manjaka amin'ny maro (izay mitarika mankamin'ny jadon'ny maro an'isa), fa ny fahafahana mampiseho ampahibemaso ny hevitra rehetra, na an'ny vitsy an'isa izany na mety hanelingelina, raha mbola tsy lainga fanalam-baraka na manavakava-bolonkoditra ihany koa. |
44 | For me this is about freedom of conscience (article 5 of the constitution) which makes the notion of the sacred relative. | Ho ahy ny fahafahana hanana konsiansy malalaka izany (andininy fahadimy amin'ny lalampanorenana) izay tsy mametraka ho tsy azo ivalozana ny zava-masina. |
45 | So, the blasphemous only exists within a religious system, but not within a system that tolerates freedom of conscience. | Noho izany, ao anatin'ny rafi-pivavahana ihany no misy ny fitenenan-dratsy ny zava-masina, fa tsy anatin'ny rafitra mizaka ny fahafaha-misaina malalaka. |
46 | Even though article 5 still exists today, in practice it is being ignored. | Na dia mbola misy hatramin'izao aza ny andininy fahadimy, tsy fantatra kosa izy eo amin'ny fampiharana. |
47 | They brought legal proceedings against Nessma TV over the broadcast of an animation representing God. | Nitory ny Nessma TV ry zareo noho ny famoahana sarimiaina manome endrika an'Andriamanitra. |
48 | They sentenced a netizen to seven and half-years in prison over the publishing of blasphemous caricatures. | Nanameloka mpiserasera iray higadra fito taona sy tapany ry zareo noho ny famoahana sariitatra manimbazimba zava-masina. |
49 | So, it is very clear that in practice, the religious taboo comes ahead of freedom of conscience, and therefore ahead of all freedoms | Noho izany mazava tsara eo amin'ny fampiharana fa ny fadinm-pivavahana no ambony kokoa noho ny fahafaha-misaina malalaka, izany hoe ambonin'ny fahalalahana rehetra |
50 | A woman writes “freedom, justice and dignity” on the floor. | Vehivavy manoratra “fahafahana, rariny sy fahamendrehana” eo amin'ny tany. |
51 | She is surrounded by the Islamic Shahada in the shape of cement walls. | Hodidinin'ny rindrim-bato fanehoam-pinoana islamika (Shahada) izy. |
52 | Via this caricature published on June, 10 _Z_ criticizes final draft of the new constitution preamble which he says “stinks with an identity obsession”. | Amin'ny alalan'io saiitatra nivoaka 10 jona io no itsikeran'i _Z_ ny teny fampidirana voavolavola farany ao amin'ny lalampanorenana vaovao izay ilazany fa “maimbon'ny tsy fahitana afa-tsy fiavahana”. |
53 | GV: The Islamist party Ennahdha recently proposed an anti-blasphemy bill. | GV: Vao namolavola lalàna manenjika ny fitenenan-dratsy (ny zava-masina) ny antoko Islamista Ennahdha vao tsy ela izay. |
54 | Do you have concerns, that in case the National Constituent Assembly (NCA) approves this bill, your caricatures will soon be censored? | Manahy ve ianao, raha eken'ny Antenimieram-Panorenam-Pirenena (NCA) ny volavolan-dalàna, fa ho voasivana tsy ho ela ny sariitatrao? |
55 | _Z_: After the birth of a revolution in the name of freedom, we absolutely do not have the right to draw the map of our liberties in terms of taboos and religious bans. | _Z_: Taorian'ny tolona natao ho amin'ny fahafahana, tsy tokony handoko ny sarintanin'ny fahafahantsika amin'ny alalan'ny fady sy ny fanilihana ataon'ny fivavahana isika. |
56 | It is like starting with the grilles when drawing the plan of a garden. | Sahala amin'ny hoe manomboka amin'ny fanaovana fefy rehefa hanao sary zaridaina. |
57 | This is what the Islamists are doing, and this why I am against their policies. | Izay no ataon'ny Islamista, ary izany no hanoherako ny politikan-dry zareo. |
58 | I will keep on playing the provocation card even if it displeases a large number of my audience, or if it is going to make me an outlaw because there is indeed a risk that the NCA would approve this anti-revolutionary bill | Mbola holalaoviko ihany ny karatry ny fihantsiana na dia tsy ankasitrahan'ny mpamakiko maro aza izany, na rehefa mametraka ahy ho jiolahy izany satria mety ho eken'ny NCA mihitsy io lalàna mifanohitra amin'ny revolisiona io |
59 | GV: The fall of the Ben Ali regime revealed talented Tunisian cartoonists. | GV: Ny fihonganan'ny fitondrana Ben Ali no nahitana ireo mpanan-talenta Toniziana amin'ny fanaovana sariitatra. |
60 | What do you think of these new talents? | Ahoana ny eritreritrao amin'ireo manan-talenta vaovao ireo? |
61 | _Z_: This is obvious and fortunate. | _Z_: Mivandravandra izany ary tsara. |
62 | Yet, many envy my anonymity. | Efa misy ny mitsiriritra ny tsy fahafantarana ahy. |
63 | This is not a good sign as it shows the comeback of fear and censorship. | Fanamarihana izany fa misy tsy milamina ao ary mampiseho ny fiverenan'ny tahotra sy ny sivana. |
64 | Despite all this, I do admit that we are still enjoying a freedom atmosphere incomparable with what we used to live under during the regime of Ben Ali. | Na eo aza izany rehetra izany, manaiky aho fa mbola misitraka fahafahana tsy azo oharina tamin'izay efa niainantsika tamin'ny fitondrana Ben Ali isika. |